And So It Goes On.

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/aug/02/ten-men-charge-alleged-sexual-exploitation-girls-coventry

Yet more exploitation of young girls committed by gangs of men.

Notice this isn't the Daily Mail stirring things up again, strangely they failed to report on it, or at least I cannot find any such report.

[DJHawkes]

if it isn't in place already I reckon we will see a task force set up soon to try to link this and similar cases throughout the UK to try and identify other incidents, this is now the 4th one isn't it and that's too many with the same details for them to not be organised.

[Gromit]

You didn't look well enough.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2383192/Gang-10-men-charged-rape-sexual-assault-trafficking-girls.html

Now they have been charged, The Daily Mail and other media are not allowed to report anything that will prejudice a fair trial. We will have to wait for that.

Rather than carping we should be congratulating the police and the authorities for finally pursing people respinsible for these crimes after years of inaction.

[VHG]

Sadly we have allowed the scum of the earth to come to this country over the last 30 years or so.

And this is the result.

Countries like the USA and Australia are very particular who they let in (try to emigrate to the USA or Australia and see how difficult it is, or how much money you have to pay to get to live in Australia).

But not us, we don't seem to care.

Cant speak English - We don't care

Got no skills - Don't worry come in anyway.

Got a prison sentence in your country for murder or rape - Never mind you are welcome.

Got no money - No worry we will give you loads of benefits (and probably a house).

This has gone from being a great country to live in to a sh*t hole in about 30 years.

And I don't think we can do anything about it.

[anotheoldgit]

VHG

You missed this out.

Try and persuade illegal immigrants to go home, and also carry out searches for them, and some say "that is not the British way" or "that it is being racist".

No VHG you are right, it appears we can't do anything about it, not with these PC thinkers.

[Gromit]

// that's too many with the same details for them to not be organised. //

Not necessarily. They all share a similar set of circumstances.

- they belong to a community which are strict on young people of different sexes mixing.
- they cosset their young women and few take drugs and drink so are not vunerable
- the young girls are not allowed out on their own late at night
- the men live in urban areas where there are lots of vunerable girls available.
- they are often in jobs such as taxi drivers or run eateries where they meet these vunerable girls.

Because they share similar circumstances they have similar outcomes.

[Brenden]

You make that sound like an excuse gromit - this is the tip of the iceberg - lets hope as these cases are brought to court, we as a nation do not become insensitive to them.

[Gromit]

It is not an excuse, it is a list of reasons why they might not be organised.

They are of course evil and disgusting predators. But are we not also a guilty of accepting the conditions where our towns are rife with drunken drugged under aged girls out all night?

[anotheoldgit]

Gromit

/// But are we not also a guilty of accepting the conditions where our towns are rife with drunken drugged under aged girls out all night? ///

So it is all the girl's fault, along with their families?

Even if the girls openly offered these perverts sex on a plate, it does not give them the licence to accept it as so abuse these young girls, why is it that only males from this group take advantage of the situation?

[boxtops]

Gromit, I think you've described the scenarios very well. There are common themes to the cases which are being discovered.

[Canary42]

Yes, the country certainly is different since the introduction of the internet - it's now full of traitors running it down online at every opportunity, day in and day out. They misguidedly call it patriotism however.

[Gromit]

Boxtops, one I forgot

- they have cultural traditions where the age of consent is less than 16.

[Gromit]

AOG,

If you put food on the street, do not be surprised if you get vermin?

[anotheoldgit]

Gromit

/// If you put food on the street, do not be surprised if you get vermin? ///

Quite right, but all breeds of vermin, not just one in particular.

[anotheoldgit]

Canary42

/// Yes, the country certainly is different since the introduction of the
internet - ///

Hardly "since the introduction of the internet", one has to go back much further than that.

[chrisgel]

DJ - //this is now the 4th one isn't it//
If only. There have been at least 8 of these cases that I know of. Who knows how many more are awaiting trial and therefore sub judice,

[Gromit]

// why is it that only males from this group take advantage of the situation? //

// Quite right, but all breeds of vermin, not just one in particular. //

The Rochdale, Oxford and Derby cases involved a total of 22 individuals and less than 10 girls. While that is a lot, it is small compared to approximately 5000 underage prostitutes in the UK.

// More than 5,000 underage girls are working as prostitutes in Britain, and the number caught soliciting has doubled since 1990, according to a three-month investigation.

Girls aged under 16 were found not only in London but in red-light districts of cities such as Cardiff, Southampton, Manchester, Doncaster and Leeds, and in one case a 12-year-old was caught soliciting. //

Unless you can prove that all the clients and pimps of these 5000 underage girls are all Pakistani, it is not confined to one group.

[pixie373]

Gromit, you make it sound as though girls shouldn't be let out until they are old enough to have sex!

[Gromit]

// There have been at least 8 of these cases that I know of. Who knows how many more are awaiting trial and therefore sub judice //

Rochdale, Deby, Oxford. Please name the other 5 you claim to know of.
Sub judice (such as in this Coventry case) means that details of the crimes cannot be reported, but it does not stop reporting that men have been arrested and charged and the area and how many charged. It obviously is a problem within the Pakistani community, but lets stick to the facts and not exaggerate.

[DJHawkes]

So there are more than i realised and some not even throught the courts yet, and they are all cases (from reading above) involving the same set of details, there is alot of money being made by these groups don;t you think? And it was being allowed to carry on as a criminal activity, is this not the same as the organised crime by russian mafia ? Why is this not just a 'franchise' sold by criminal overlords to underlings who they recruit? It's organised and makes money.

[Gromit]

pixie373

Parents and guardians should not let their children (under 16) out drunk or drugged. And they should expect them to return home of an evening at a reasonable time. If they fail to protect their charges, then they are supplying these disgusting perverts with the vulnerable girls to exploit.

Of the three cases we know about, the girls have all been tempted with cigarettes, cannabis and alcohol and were not missed when they stayed out all night.