The Niqab Rears It's Ugly Head Once Again.

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2416632/Muslim-students-banned-wearing-niqab-Birmingham-Met-college-security-reasons.html

Was this college right to make this ruling?

/// Imaani Ali, 17, believes the ban on veils is a breach of her freedom ///

There are many things in life that breach our 'FREEDOM' Imaani Ali, they are mainly called 'RULES'.

[jno]

ah yes, the phrase "ugly head" rears its ugly head again

[VHG]

There is no place in this country for clothing that covers all the face except the eyes.

If you don't like it go and live somewhere else.

[naomi24]

Yes, it was right.

[rockyracoon]

I couldn't give a monkeys one way or the other about this to be honest but what I don't understand is the comment from her

"We said we would happily show the men at security our faces so they could check them against our IDs, but they won’t let us."

I thought the whole idea of having the face covered was to stop blokes looking.

[SlackAlice]

Yes, the college was right.

Imaani Ali needs to either obey the rules or join another college.

[ludwig]

I think it's up to college what dress rules it imposes. People who don't like the rules can go somewhere else, as some of them apparently have.

[youngmafbog]

Of course it is correct, and I understand it bans all hiding not just Muslims but the ridiculous hoodie too that is often used by those wishing to hide.

Interestingly:

President of the Muslim Association of Britain, Omer El-Hamdoon, said the women at the college should accept the policy and abide by the rules

jno, no valuable opinion on th subject then?

[boxtops]

I think the college is right - all other rules have to be abided by. The girl's comment about "it's my religion" just doesn't hold water - wearing a niqab is a personal choice.

[Gromit]

Of course there are rules in life, but rules have to be fair. The question is, is this rule fair and justified?

If the implication is that a terrorist could cover up and enter the college that may be a legitimate concern. If that is the reason, they must also stop others entering the college grounds. Everyone in a car must get out and identify themselves. Motorcyclists must stop take off their helmets.

Fingerprint id scanners are relatively cheap and portable. They can instantly verify who anyone is and security staff could be equipped with them easily.

Security concerns should be taken seriously, but this seems targeted and not very useful.

[ludwig]

// I understand it bans all hiding //

How do they find the people who don't comply?

[Khandro]

It highlights the advantages of school and college uniforms; you wear the uniform, get on with your education, and that's the end of the story, no exceptions.

[ludwig]

A girl I went to school with got expelled for sending someone else in to do an exam for her in a burkha. They realised straight away itwasn't her because she never usually wore one.

[naomi24]

Boxy is right, the girl’s comment doesn’t hold water – and in reply to rocky, the whole idea in this instance is to say ‘Look at me, I’m a Muslim and don’t you dare attempt to breach my freedom to do as I like, regardless of the rules’. This girl is 17 – and has adopted the uniform of political Islam. She’s clearly not so modest that she won’t show her face to men – and neither is she so shy that she won’t speak up. It’s nonsense.

[mallyh]

yes they were right ,makes a change as normally it's the british people who have to adapt so as not to upset the minority groups .

[trt]

You wouldn't be allowed to wear a balaclava so why should they be allowed to wear a Niqab?

Lets follow the French and ban it everywhere.

[mallyh]

ditto trt .

[tamborine]

'breach her freedom' to cheat in subterfuge ?

[Gromit]

Dame Christine Braddock took the decision:

http://www.suttoncoldfieldconservatives.com/news/celebration-life-and-society-sutton-annual-civic-service

[Duncer]

"Fingerprint id scanners are relatively cheap and portable. They can instantly verify who anyone is and security staff could be equipped with them easily. "

They have also malfunctioned in, and been removed from, several high security prisons in the last few yes

[bazwillrun]

Yes
about time these people learnt that this is not a muslim country and to repesct our values and , culture etc

dont like it, dont want to ...then go ASAP please