Tory/ukip Coalition !

[mikey4444]

http://yougov.co.uk/news/2013/09/27/why-toryukip-alliance-would-benefit-labour/

Look what YouGov have found. Even if the Tories and UKIP were to get into bed together, in the 2015 Election, Labour would still sail home ! They would have an even bigger majority. And this is a result of a Poll undertaken by YouGov for...wait for it !...The Sun !

[Gromit]

UKiP might win one MP at the next election. They are not going to be in Coalition with anyone.

The Liberal demascum will have a quarter of the seats they have today, and they will not be in Coalition with anyone either.

This Coalition was a one off. Tory voters are not happy with it, Liberals are not happy with it and everyone else are not happy with it either. It is an unfortunate compromise which means the parties who didn't get enough votes grab power by grubby alliances.

[modeller]

Gromit//.................the parties who didn't get enough votes grab power by grubby alliances.//

It's easy to talk , what would you do if no one party has enough seats ?

[ludwig]

// UKIP might win one MP at the next election. //

I doubt they'll get any seats. They're popular because people are concerned about the EU and immigration, and UKIP voice all those concerns.

When it comes to a general election though, people will revert to the norm which is to vote for the party that you think has the best chance of keeping out the party you don't want to win. All the Tory haters will vote Labour, and all the Labour haters will vote Tory. Alot of Liberals will vote Labour because they'd rather keep the Tories out than Labour.

If any coalition happens it'll probably be Labour/Lib.

[DTCwordfan]

Not easy to have a coalition when you don't have any seats.
Telegraph's take was that Clegg favours Cons over Lab as he can't work with the Wallace impersonator.

[Gromit]

Clegg chose a coalition with the Conservatives after the last election because they were the party with most votes, not because he couldn't work with Brown. The so called Rainbow Alliance, badically everyone except the Conservatives could have, in theory have formed a Government, but Clegg would have known that would be hellish, and a coalition with several parties would mean less power for the LibDems. A coalition of just two was a better fit for the LibDems. As for Clegg not being able to work with Milliband in a coalition, he may not have any alternative. If the pisition after the next election is that Labour have the most seats but not a working majority, Clegg will not hesitate to form a coalition with Labour if invited to. Though I doubt Clegg will still be party leader after the mauling the LibDems will get.

If the right bye election comes along in the next 18 months, UKiP could quite easily win it and get an MP. They nearly won Eastleigh, and probably would have if Farage hadn't lost his bottle (and failed to stand). In a General Election they are unlikely to win any seats, but their presence will be very disruptive for the two main parties.

[emmie]

there won;t be a Tory/UKIP alliance, not now nor in the future, for all the reasons already discussed, however it is quite possible that Clegg will throw his hat into the ring next time round with Ed Milliband, or whoever is leading Labour at the next election.

[EDDIE51]

Just wait for The Sun to change sides again !

[modeller]

Good answer Gromit well argued, without blaming Maggie for once.
I agree Nick would form an alliance with 'Old Nick' to hold on to a bit of power.

[Zacs-Master]

A Tory UKIP alliance would have me (and a lot of others) requesting immigration forms.

[emmie]

as does me if its labour/lib dems.

[emmie]

you would have to have something to offer if you move abroad zac, unlike many who land on our shores in recent days, and they won't take you if you don't.

[jno]

promises, promises. I'm still waiting for Andrew Lloyd Webber to emigrate, as he said he'd do if Tony Blair won.

[Gromit]

I'm waiting for Ray Winstone to leave as he keeps promising to do. He says the country has gone to the dogs, but his emigration might be hampered by his drugs conviction and assault one.

[emmie]

they have money and have plenty of choices of places to go, not to mention holidays they can take to get out for a time, not everyone is afforded that luxury.

[emmie]

though you are quite happy for some of the dregs to stay here, those who have done this country no favours whatsoever, foreign criminals who can't be deported because of their so called right to a family life, all the while one assumes that the likes of Ray Winstone has paid some tax, money from films that go into British film industry as well as US. If he says that he doesn't like it here because of many of the changes in the last few years, he is only reiterating what a lot of people think... and sometime say.

[Old_Geezer]

Not read the article but I assume it is hinting at splitting the right wing vote. Pity really because wanting to get out of the EU is not a right or left wing issue. Both sides have flirted with anti and pro in the past.

UKIP are unlikely to get any seats in the national elections. Their problem as with all small but ambitious parties, is to get seen as a viable party to govern, first. If they did well in local elections or the EU then maybe they'd be a contender: but at present many are so concerned that the wrong group of lizards will get in if they don't vote for their favoured group that a breakthrough is difficult. Generally speaking a new party has to wait until one of the two established ones gets things so wrong that they continue to appeal to few, and lose their base support.