Gove: Mail Was Right To Offend

[ChillDoubt]

Dear oh dear.

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-24363765

Just doesn't get it does he? This idiot gets further detached from reality day by day. But given Dacre's reputation I suppose he foolishly believes he feels he has to defend a daily sh*t-sheet that his wife writes for, despite all from the PM down saying the paper was wrong.

[Zeuhl]

If Gove is happy to give The Daily Fail permission to tell lies and besmirch his dead father that's up to him.

He shouldn't assume that other people want the same

[jake-the-peg]

//Mr Gove, whose wife writes a column for the Mail...//

Right so he's in a good position to judge

[emmie]

Mr Gove is a citizen of Britain is he not, he is allowed to make comments, just the same as you and i, i could say that so and so is a numpty, it would be an opinion, mine alone perhaps, but an opinion none the less,
and there seems to some who rather agree with the DM, and they are not necessarily rabid right wingers.

[emmie]

it also made me laugh out loud, well not really, that some here cast aspersions on Peter Dacre for not going to fight in WW2, whilst Ralph Milliband did, why? does that prove something, that many sat at home whilst others went out and were killed or injured. No one knows why said father didn't go to fight, but you are arguing the same point, don't bash Ralph Milliband because he did go and fight. His views seem rather to have gone by the by, but nevertheless he was a Marxist and did make some rather disparaging remarks about Britain and the British and i doubt he did them only when he was a young man.

[ChillDoubt]

and there seems to some who rather agree with the DM, and they are not necessarily rabid right wingers.
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Like who, emmie? For once it would appear that all the major political parties are in agreement over this one and the Fail is already back tracking over the gravestone picture.
There aren't many lauding the Fail but I'm happy for you to supply a list of distinguished backers of their stance.

[jake-the-peg]

I'm sure he was critical of Britain

I'm critical of it - so are you (although we're critical of different parts)

You seem to think that someone with a particular political persuasion must hate this country

A Marxist hates Britian because it's a marxist state?

A Labourite hates Britain because it has a Tory Government?

Did you hate Britain when Tony Blair was PM?

This is all nonsense on stilts

[ChillDoubt]

Oh come on emmie, Dacre couldn't even front up on Newsnight after his humiliating climb-down because he knew the real M. Tucker would have destroyed him publicly, like he did his flunky.

[anotheoldgit]

Ah out come the insults by the left, who presume to be so against any personal insults such as in this case.

Yet they regularly come out with such expressions as this "This idiot", "given Dacre's reputation", "he foolishly believes he has to defend a daily sh*t-sheet", "The Daily Fail", "rabid right wingers".

Incidentally we hear so much about Milliband's father serving in the navy during WW2, but this doesn't prove that he loved Britain, it was his opportunity to take revenge on the Nazis who treated his family and religion so appallingly.

[sandyRoe]

It's likely that a Marxist wouldn't have a religion.

[anotheoldgit]

jake-the-peg

/// A Marxist hates Britian because it's a marxist state? ///

Blimey jtp I didn't know that.

[sandyRoe]

Portillo was the son of a Left-wing refugee. I can't remember anyone saying that the fathers politics influenced him.

[ChillDoubt]

Ah out come the insults by the left, who presume to be so against any personal insults such as in this case.
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AOG, you really don't have a clue, do you?
You are calling me a lefty? Someone who has never voted, served 8 years in HM Forces and staunchly defended Maragaret Thatcher, particularly after all the debate after her death.

This whole sorry saga has got NOTHING to do with politics whatsoever.
It is about basic human dignity(particularly as the 'accused' is deceased), a tale of right and wrong and as witnessed on these boards there have been many who have decried politicians, have no time for them etc(particularly me) but who feel and have felt the need to speak out over what is a grave injustice and besmirching of a son who is defending the honour and memory of his dead father.

Now wake up and smell what you're shovelling.

[jake-the-peg]

AOG

missed the ?

Should have gone to Spec-Savers

[emmie]

lets get this straight i don't give a tinkers damn about Milliband son or father, i don't really understand the idea that Campbell who has told more lies than Pinoccio coming to the aid of Milliband junior, he is old enough to make rebuttals himself, as he has done. Yet some on here have a go at Paul Dacre's own dad for sitting behind a desk in Fleet street instead of holding a gun in WW2.

[emmie]

sandy, early protestant, then atheist.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Marx

[emmie]

sandy
Portillo was born in Bushey, Hertfordshire to an exiled Spanish republican father, Luis Gabriel Portillo (1907–1993).[1] and a Scottish mother, Cora (née Blyth), whose father, John Blyth, was a prosperous linen mill owner from Kirkcaldy.

[Ellipsis]

> Gove: Mail Was Right To Offend

He defended their right to offend. He did not say they were right to offend. Different meanings of "right".

[emmie]

jtp, i disliked blair when he was elected as much as i do today.

[emmie]

Ellipsis, so it is.