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Is It Acceptable For An Mp To Break The Law
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As this particular case has not been in court she is of course innocent at present.
However, looking more generally (and not specifically to fracking) is it acceptable for an MP to get into a position of breaking the law and being arrested for what is in effect civil unrest? (or for any other reason for that matter)
I'm not aiming anything at the Greens or any other party here.
As this particular case has not been in court she is of course innocent at present.
However, looking more generally (and not specifically to fracking) is it acceptable for an MP to get into a position of breaking the law and being arrested for what is in effect civil unrest? (or for any other reason for that matter)
I'm not aiming anything at the Greens or any other party here.
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Sorry Gromit, I have just watched the film and i am far from convinced.
She and her "mates" are obstructing a public road completely bringing to a standstill any vehicle movements........
The important part of your presentation, the bit between her sitting and helping her mate and walking down the road with the policeman is conveniently missing.
What happened in the interim? Did she passively give up?
I do not retract one word.
As for AB description of the policeman as a yob, that in itself is defamatory,as if i was confronted by the arrogant unwashed, obstructing public roads, i would resort to the nearest and strongest water cannon.
She and her "mates" are obstructing a public road completely bringing to a standstill any vehicle movements........
The important part of your presentation, the bit between her sitting and helping her mate and walking down the road with the policeman is conveniently missing.
What happened in the interim? Did she passively give up?
I do not retract one word.
As for AB description of the policeman as a yob, that in itself is defamatory,as if i was confronted by the arrogant unwashed, obstructing public roads, i would resort to the nearest and strongest water cannon.
sqad
There is no footage of the arrest, possibly for legal reasons it has not been broadcast. Whatever you remember seeing, was not on TV, possibly you were there, to have such a vivid recollection?
Just being pedantic, but the protest was not on a public road, it was on a site entrance.
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There is no footage of the arrest, possibly for legal reasons it has not been broadcast. Whatever you remember seeing, was not on TV, possibly you were there, to have such a vivid recollection?
Just being pedantic, but the protest was not on a public road, it was on a site entrance.
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@ Sqad Ahh, I think most people would understand the term passive resistance
Since you appear to be keen on literal interpretations today, here are a couple of dictionary definitions of "passive resistance"
"(Government, Politics & Diplomacy) resistance to a government, law, etc., made without violence, as by fasting, demonstrating peacefully, or refusing to cooperate"
or
"opposition to a government or to specific laws by the use of noncooperation or other nonviolent methods."
But if you are really unhappy about the term, we can go with nonviolent resistance, nonviolent protest instead if you like :)
Since you appear to be keen on literal interpretations today, here are a couple of dictionary definitions of "passive resistance"
"(Government, Politics & Diplomacy) resistance to a government, law, etc., made without violence, as by fasting, demonstrating peacefully, or refusing to cooperate"
or
"opposition to a government or to specific laws by the use of noncooperation or other nonviolent methods."
But if you are really unhappy about the term, we can go with nonviolent resistance, nonviolent protest instead if you like :)
LazyGun
Since you appear to be keen on literal interpretations today, here are a couple of dictionary definitions of "passive resistance"
"(Government, Politics & Diplomacy) resistance to a government, law, etc., made without violence, as by fasting, demonstrating peacefully, or refusing to cooperate"
It would be nice to see an answer without either a bloody link or indeed some definition dug up from a dictionary.
What has happened to common sense and original thought?
Since you appear to be keen on literal interpretations today, here are a couple of dictionary definitions of "passive resistance"
"(Government, Politics & Diplomacy) resistance to a government, law, etc., made without violence, as by fasting, demonstrating peacefully, or refusing to cooperate"
It would be nice to see an answer without either a bloody link or indeed some definition dug up from a dictionary.
What has happened to common sense and original thought?
Not sure I would want to see how your a4rse passively protests Sqad :)
As I say, you can substitute nonviolent protest if you prefer, but most people will understand the term passive resistance.
I would be interested in your suggestions re "moving on...the buggers" I await your no doubt highly creative methods with interest :)
As I say, you can substitute nonviolent protest if you prefer, but most people will understand the term passive resistance.
I would be interested in your suggestions re "moving on...the buggers" I await your no doubt highly creative methods with interest :)
@Sqad Awwz are you a tad grouchy today? Curmudgeonly even? Want a dictionary definition of either of those? :)
You do not need to click on the links Sqad, if you do not want to. You are allowed the exemption. And the thought/argument/point is made without the link as you know doubt can see. The link is merely there for reference.
You do not need to click on the links Sqad, if you do not want to. You are allowed the exemption. And the thought/argument/point is made without the link as you know doubt can see. The link is merely there for reference.
Lazygun......I will look up those "words" after dinner.
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Sometimes....sometimes.......but mostly it is what somebody has said, somebody has written, somebody's opinion that just happens to support one's argument.
I have to say, I open very few links now.....and no I am not ashamed.
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Sometimes....sometimes.......but mostly it is what somebody has said, somebody has written, somebody's opinion that just happens to support one's argument.
I have to say, I open very few links now.....and no I am not ashamed.
@Sqad You can chastise me if my post to which the link is attached does not make my point/argument/comment all you like, Sqad. Equally, you can chastise me if I cut and paste or attempt to pass off someone elses work as my own. Otherwise it seems to me you are being argumentative just for the sake of it.
Thing is though, I doubt that you can. I am sorry for you if you find attached links in support of or in reference to an argument such a big deal.
Thing is though, I doubt that you can. I am sorry for you if you find attached links in support of or in reference to an argument such a big deal.
sqad
I know I am wasting my time, but
// since when has a "site entrance" had a white line running down the centre....(look at your link) //
Lucas was clearly sat on muddy ground when she was arrested, not a tarmaced road. This picture shows the site entrance and the location of the protestors.
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I know I am wasting my time, but
// since when has a "site entrance" had a white line running down the centre....(look at your link) //
Lucas was clearly sat on muddy ground when she was arrested, not a tarmaced road. This picture shows the site entrance and the location of the protestors.
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And this little chap knows all the dangers of fracking?
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AOG,
You may not have seen the the follow up post
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You may not have seen the the follow up post
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In the instant case, the facts are for a court to decide; rehearsing the arguments and allegations for or against this MP being guilty is irrelevant here.
However, am I to understand that, say, sitting with others in a roadway, and refusing to move when instructed not to obstruct it, is both lawful and legitimate ? It has been a tactic of protestors for a long time, because they can then present themselves as peaceful citizens, blame the authorities (police, government, the courts) and not see themselves as , at best, a nuisance to others who also have rights.
However, am I to understand that, say, sitting with others in a roadway, and refusing to move when instructed not to obstruct it, is both lawful and legitimate ? It has been a tactic of protestors for a long time, because they can then present themselves as peaceful citizens, blame the authorities (police, government, the courts) and not see themselves as , at best, a nuisance to others who also have rights.
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