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Newsnight: Baby P Story/sharon Shoesmith
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Just starting now. Sounds like it will be interesting and shocking.
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I think she should bear some responsibili ty for what happened to those children. If Ed Balls hadn't sacked her what would have happened? Public opinion was that she should have been aware of the events, and pay the price for not doing her job. Disgraceful.
23:01 Mon 28th Oct 2013
ChillDoubt - "So you believe she's justified in taking that amount of money for failing to do her job?"
That is not what jno said. What jno pointed out was that the payment is because Ed Balls failed to follow proper procedure, leaving the door open for Shosemsith to instigate, and win a case for unfair dismissal.
The Gorvernment is paying - with our money - for the failure of a Minister who was too keen to make himself appear righteous and right-on. and not keen enough to follow legal proceedures which his own Government set out and apply.
Ms Shoemsith is entirely entitled to her payment under law.
Whether the morality of what she allowed her department to fail to do, and the death of this poor child as a result, will prevent her from sleeping at night, is entirely another matter.
That is not what jno said. What jno pointed out was that the payment is because Ed Balls failed to follow proper procedure, leaving the door open for Shosemsith to instigate, and win a case for unfair dismissal.
The Gorvernment is paying - with our money - for the failure of a Minister who was too keen to make himself appear righteous and right-on. and not keen enough to follow legal proceedures which his own Government set out and apply.
Ms Shoemsith is entirely entitled to her payment under law.
Whether the morality of what she allowed her department to fail to do, and the death of this poor child as a result, will prevent her from sleeping at night, is entirely another matter.
Agree with jno...and the publicity has made her almost unemployable.
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As the MP on Newsnight said, she may struggle a little less if she actually took some responsibility instead of taking Haringey Council for everything she could get.
As for social work being 'very hard', oh please!
She chose social work as a career. I wouldn't mind £133,000 p.a. for 'a very hard job'.
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As the MP on Newsnight said, she may struggle a little less if she actually took some responsibility instead of taking Haringey Council for everything she could get.
As for social work being 'very hard', oh please!
She chose social work as a career. I wouldn't mind £133,000 p.a. for 'a very hard job'.
http:// en.wiki pedia.o rg/wiki /Sharon _Shoesm ith#Ext ernal_r eports_ and_inq uiries
A lot of people involved in this case were either censured, warned, suspended or subsequently resigned. Those who failed to resign were removed.
Yet the head of Social Services at the time appears to be the only one who felt the need to try and winkle over £1 million out of Haringey Council for basically failing to do her job and correctly oversee policy and procedures involving her staff.
Shameful.
A lot of people involved in this case were either censured, warned, suspended or subsequently resigned. Those who failed to resign were removed.
Yet the head of Social Services at the time appears to be the only one who felt the need to try and winkle over £1 million out of Haringey Council for basically failing to do her job and correctly oversee policy and procedures involving her staff.
Shameful.
Obviously the system isn't working, cliches 'lessons will be learned' etc are beginning to grate. I know someone who was a social worker, she was a nervous wreck when she finished. I understand that she had a child taken from a 'rough' family and the family were trying everything to find her to take their revenge. It is not a nice job.
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