Could This By Any Stretch Of The Imagination Be Classed As Tory Propaganda?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2523198/Anger-parents-Tory-councillor-used-photo-children-sledging-Christmas-card.html

/// Parents have complained to David Cameron after a Tory councillor used a picture of their children sledging on his Christmas card without their permission. ///

/// ‘My children have been recognised by many people in the community who have now wrongly made the assumption that my family are Conservative Party supporters. ///

[anotheoldgit]

andy-hughes

/// I don't think he has been sinister in the slightest. ///

/// Thoughtless, but not sinister. ///

Nothing wrong there then?

Just a storm in a tea pot, I'll get my coat.

[sandyRoe]

What business has he taking photographs of other peoples children?

[LazyGun]

We are all somebodies children, Sandy.

We should all be allowed to photograph scenes of day to day life going on in public spaces that we find appealing, or that makes a point, or just because we want a visual aide memoire.

That can get a bit complicated however, especially with all the sensitivities over child pornography if someone is taking snaps of kids in a public bathing pool during the summertime for example, ( which is actually pretty tragic, when you think about it) but in this specific case there is no hint of impropriety surely?

It would be impractical surely to ask permission before taking every snap,whether you planned to use redistribute it or not. That famous photo of the sailor and the nurse kissing in Times Square to celebrate VJ Day- the photographer did not have to seek out their permission first. We would be bereft of a lot of iconic images were that rule enforced.

[hc4361]

Why shouldn't he? It's not illegal and he says they asked him to take his photo but whether they did or not is neither here nor there.

[hc4361]

Even when you pay a professional photographer to take photos, the photographer owns the copyright and can do whatever he likes with them.

[jno]

andy, with regard to "official" cards, a useful test might be: who paid for them?

I rather suspect it wasn't Mr Peach, but his party.

[FredPuli43]

Let's follow this through a bit. If David Cameron has a photo-op when visiting a school, is he to not do it until he has asked every parent, whose child happens to feature in the photograph ,whether they consent? And what if one parent votes Tory and the other votes Labour? Is this some new rule that has been invented? Suppose he uses the resulting photograph with a message, express rather than implied, that the Tories have great interest in good schools , such as this ,and will do everything to raise standards?


It's nonsense, but you'll always find some parent who is 'seething !

[OILhead]

I would seethe too if it were me - not that I would necessarily go to the press - as I would not want my image used on cards, documents or anything by a party, cause, charity, whatever that I did not support or agree with.

At the very least it is bad manners to not ask permission although my understanding (from what we do at work) is that while taking a picture does not necessarily require permission, using it does, and for minors, that permission has to be given by the parents.

[hc4361]

OILhead, only if the image is to be sold for profit and perhaps not even then.
The photographer owns the copyright and can do with it whatever he likes.

[youngmafbog]

Seething equals nice large compo claim. Pure and simple. Politicians of all sides take heed, this is the culture yku have created.

[FredPuli43]

Except, youngmafbog, this couldn't possibly give rise to a claim for compensation or damages, and nor could any like case. No lawyer, even a no win no fee one, would touch it. You'd never get home on it, which is enough of a deterrent, but even if you could get an offer from some incompetent insurer it would be a notional one and not worth claiming.

If your point is that someone might try, then, yes they might. No idea what head(s) of damages they would claim under, but they might.

[OILhead]

http://www.reading.ac.uk/internal/imps/DataProtection/DataProtectionGuidelines/imps-d-p-photographic.aspx

This is along the lines of the guidance I have been given at work - that personal images can be defined as personal data and in some cases using those images without permission could be a breach of DPA - regardless of whether that use is commercial or not.