Why Is There A Special Memorial For Gay Victims?

[ToraToraTora]

Are they more significant that the the non LGBT dead?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-25687190
We are constanly being told that LGBTs just want to be treated as equal, yet this shows anything but.

[douglas9401]

Why? Because they are what they are, they are their own special creation.

[jomifl]

Kromo, I'll dismiss it because it appears to be meaningless.

[Kromovaracun]

It isn't though. People vary on what they consider to be sex. If (for instance), the survey purely asked about anal sex, it would come back with a result that didn't include a huge number of gay men (and so would be pretty pointless).

It's just asking people whether they have done what they consider to be sex. Now do you suppose that the majority of them interpret that to mean a handshake or something?

[Khandro]

I think the pink triangle looks rather nice set against the surrounding greenery of the park. What's the problem?

[Kromovaracun]

Also, I'm well aware that that particular survey is just a stupid magazine thing. The only reason I mention it is that it's the most recent thing to come to mind...

[Peter Pedant]

I think it is rather thweet as well Khandro.

when there was an outcry about selling concentration camp memorabilia
and disrespect to the mainly Jewish dead, I pointed out the striped pyjamz appeared to have a pink triangle on it, so in 3Ts terms what were they complaining about.

Pink triangles - quite rare actually - only one is thought to have survived 1945.

and getting back to the original,
Black triangles - is that Baptists or Communists
they have memorials -perhaps not stressing the triangle bit.

[anotheoldgit]

Tel Aviv Mayor Ron Huldai said,

/// "This monument reminds us all how important it is for us to respect every human being," ///

If so then I repeat Tora Tora tora's question "Why Is There A Special Memorial For Gay Victims"?

Surely all those many other monuments to the holocaust victims do not exclude gays?

[anotheoldgit]

Peter Pedant

/// Do you go past every memorial - to the war dead in a village or anyone
and said to a passer-by - why they done that ven ? they more special than uvvers ? ///

Can we soon expect to see special memorials spring up in every village, town or city, remembering all those gays who lost their lives in war?

[jomifl]

Kromo, I can only speculate as to what passes for sex in the lgbt community. My biological training suggests that what passes between two members of the same gender is not sex. I am sure that you will disagree though as the modern meaning of the word 'sex' seems to have become somewhat perverted.

[Kromovaracun]

"My biological training suggests that what passes between two members of the same gender is not sex."

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm guessing that's because in your head, sex = reproduction. Which is, frankly, quite silly.

[jomifl]

Kromo, absolutely, that's what sex is, anything else is behaviour...

[Kromovaracun]

Interesting. Forgive me if you've had this question before Jom, but out of interest would you call oral or anal sex between consenting heterosexuals 'perverted' on the grounds that it isn't really sex?

Also, given that you've already conceded that the vast majority of modern people have a different definition of sex to you, your argument does not show the 23% figure to be 'meaningless' because the participants do not share your definitions.

[Khandro]

'Sex' is a noun, and I think you are using it more as a verb.

[anotheoldgit]

Kromovaracun

/// Also, given that you've already conceded that the vast majority of modern people have a different definition of sex to you, your argument does not show the 23% figure to be 'meaningless' because the participants do not share your definitions. ///

i bet some are getting all sorts of strange things coming up as they now type 'sex' in Google.

[jomifl]

Kromo, If you want to call anal masturbation sex then that is your prerogative. Personally I prefer to call a spade a spade and a dick a penis. :o)

[sir.prize]

Kromo - you have just been splatted!

Well said jomifl.

[ummmm]

Why isn't it referred to as 'anal or oral masturbation'?

[Peter Pedant]

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Kromo - give 'em hell

I hesitate to say - we're behind you ! -


As for separate gay memorials - isnt there a Homomonument in Amersterdam. - now encased in needles and syringes....
and I think there is one in Manch - too

[Peter Pedant]

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I dont know - ummm - you ask such questions....


[but I often wonder why Shakespeare couldnt fly.....]

[ummmm]

Because it's a form of sex.