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mikey4444 | 10:04 Sun 02nd Feb 2014 | News
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Found this in the BBC News Website this morning ::

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-18264385

As you can see, Labour ahead since May 2012.
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LOl...good morning mikey..........knew they would have been good for Labour otherwise we would not have heard from you (hope that isn't unfair, wasn't meant to be). I got bored halfway down. I don't think that anybody has EVER disputed that Labour had been ahead in the polls since 2012.
10:10 Sun 02nd Feb 2014
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Well perhaps we should agree to disagree gromit !

Its going to an interesting 15 months !
It looks to me, its headed for a Labour/LibDem coalition, as long as the LDs don't get annilated.
I seemed to have stumbled across a Noo Laybore luv in! I'm not sure what horrifies me more, the thought of Red Eds or the fact that you guys seem to actually want the Red Eds! Enjoy your party chaps but remember polls are fickle, as are the electorate. Remember His Tonyness's landslide in 1997? Taking the turnout into consideration 24% of the electorate voted for Noo Laybore!
Don't think you have read the thread Tora.
There is only Mikey predicting a Labour win.
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Gromit...I am not predicting a Labour win, although on present form, it would be odd if it was otherwise. My point is that dave ought to be doing better. He isn't and nobody can seem to say why.
Ok so gomit/mikey do you actually want a Labour governement?
Dave's not doing better because the economy has been stagnant for 4 years, because wages have fallen in real terms, because many are in fuel poverty, because youth unemployment is at record levels, because they have doubled the national debt, because they still run up a huge deficit every year, because his party is a shambles and undermining his authority, and because a lot more people are worse off than they were in 2010.

If he can deal with that, their ratings might improve.
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Gromit...that is a very long list ! Unless dave is Superman in disguise, than I can't see how on earth he is going make much headway in the few months that he has left. Still it is just possible I suppose (!)

Yes, TTT. I DO want to see the return of a Labour government...can't understand why you had to ask though...haven't you been paying attention ?
Well done mikey,
Whether you meant it or not, you know the estalished "secret" of getting peoples' views.
You ask them what they think other people do or will do - NOT what they do or plan to do.
e.g. "What do you think the average person drinks in units of alcohol per week?" gets a truer answer than "What do you drink in units of alcohol per week?"
So we now have a good idea what the political leanings of many of the responding ab'ers are for what it's worth.
Much more accurate than a straight poll.
Especially in medicine eh sqad?
Well done mikey,
Regards,
SIQ.
P.S. I know you didn't ask a question mikey but a provcative statement, set of data does the same job. Can be used in debate to sort out views but can backfire and get you tarred with a provocative opinion you don't really hold - I've tried it! :).
SIQ.
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solvitquick...Sorry, I haven't got a clue what you are on about ! Could you please try to explain, in plainer English ! Thank you !

By the way Sqad, that Electoral Calculus website has now been updated :::

http://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/homepage.html
The only things I want to know about pre-election polls are: -

1) Does anyone pay any attention to these, other than the press pundits?
(and contributors to this thread, obviously!)

2) Do any of those who do pay attention, finding their favoured party to be, reportedly, in a comfortable lead in the polls, base their decision to not bother going to the polling station on election day?

3) Do any of those who do pay attention, finding their favoured party to be, reportedly, trailing in the polls, put aside decades of election day apathy and shift their posterior down to the polling station in an attempt to 'save the day'?

w.r.t. 2 & 3, I realize that residents in a 'safe seat' - for either side - usually know about it and know that reacting to unfavourable poll results in such a way would be futile.

Arguably all elections boil down to just the marginals, so it is intriguing to speculate about the extent to which polls interfere with election results. (Aspects of crowd behaviour interest me more than the politics itself).

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Hypognosis...interesting post, and one I can understand !

You may be right but not all elections rely of marginals seats. Take May 1997 for instance. Millions of people deserted the Tories in favour of Labour, and in 1979, the opposite happened. My point in these posts is that Labour have now been ahead of the Tories since late summer 2011, just over a year after the General Election in May 2010. The Tories have shown no indication of reversing that position since, despite having the open goal that Labour sometimes presents them with. The results of all these Polls have been consistent, and that must be worrying for dave and co.

The latest prediction from Electoral Calculus has Labour with an overall majority of 66 seats. If you add the 24 seats for the Libs, then if a pact were to be reached between Labour and the Libs, then that would give them a working majority over the Tories of not much less than the Tories have today over Labour !
Milliband and Balls in charge?

God help us!
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You might think that and you have the right to express your views but its what democracy is all about Hopkirk !
Absolutely
God doesn't help the unfortunates, don't you know that.
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I was brought up to believe that God helps the righteous Emmie ! Not sure what political party they belong to though.

Perhaps they had it right in The Life of Brian...blessed are the Cheesemakers.

I make no apologies for inserting the clip :::


I must admit that, last election, I mulled over the possibility of (shock, horror) voting Lib Dem to - you know - just give them a try... just this once.

After all, every pre-election TV debate I'd seen it always seemed natural that they'd join forces with Labour because their alignment was so similar.

For various reasons, I didn't vote for them on the day and I was later infuriated to discover that they were happy to leap into bed with whichever other party could get them into power. Ideological differences be damned!

I would hazard a guess that any swing to Labour would be largely deserting Lib-Dem supporters who simply cannot bring themselves to vote Tory.

They're voting Labour, but grudingly.

If I had the opportunity, I'd make the "save the NHS" party my choice for a protest vote.

As I have said on previous posts, the Labour party is for benefit claimants, public sector workers and anyone who depends on the taxpayer for money.

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