Roache Not Guilty Of All Charges

[ChillDoubt]

Just flashed up on Sky.
Can't say I'm surprised.

[whiskeryron]

How about a lie detector test ?

WR.

[EcclesCake]

AOG, do you not think the CPS did conduct an investigation to assess the robustness of the claims of these women?

[Zeuhl]

That would be nice WR

but their unreliability stops them from being admissable in most urisdictions

even in the USA, their findings can be used in court in only certain states at the judge's discretion.

BTW The Polygraph was invented by the same man who created 'Wonder Woman'

[joggerjayne]

Sexual assault is a horrendous crime.

To do such a thing is evil, and can ruin someone's life.

The perpetrator should be named, exposed, and publicly shunned.

To falsely accuse someone of doing such an evil thing can also ruin someone's life.

Anyone who wrongly makes such a horrendous accusation, and puts someone through so many months of hell, should be named, exposed, and publicly shunned.

The CPS must stop bringing speculative cases just to appease public opinion.

You should be damn sure you can prove a case before you accuse someone of something like that.

If you get it wrong, the accuser must be answerable.

[sandyRoe]

Even though he's been acquitted, and leaves court without a stain on his character, could it be that he had to endure this trial and the bad publicity surrounding it because of something he had done in a previous life?

[ummmm]

AOG...I was abused as a child. I kept quiet although it came out regardless. Had it not come out, and years later, no matter how many years, I heard someone else had accused him....I stand up and back them.

You haven't a clue what it's like to be a victim...it's something that never ever leaves you...ever!!

[ummmm]

Lol Sandy...

[Zeuhl]

/If you get it wrong, the accuser must be answerable./

JJ - By that I take it you mean the Prosecution Service not the alleged victims
as the judgement on 'proveability' (and the associated publicity) was the CPS's and the failure to achieve that is theirs not the alleged victims.

[Fusion5]

I wonder who was really found 'not guilty' Ken Barlow or Bill Roache.

[brionon]

anotheoldgit-Then No woman would dare report a rape-Gottit ?

[FredPuli43]

AOG, sometimes sarcasm seems the only answer. You do not appear to live in the same world as the rest of us;. The standard and burden of proof has been the same for centuries, but you prefer to base a hypothesis on the basis that they don't exist; it seems a reasonable conclusion that you must think they were different years ago and you haven't noticed a change. If the man is acquitted then the women must be guilty of perjury appears to be your premiss.

The CPS and the police plainly thought that there was enough credibility in these women for the trial to be brought on. That the man was acquitted gives no basis for doubting that.

[anotheoldgit]

ummmm

/// AOG...I was abused as a child. I kept quiet although it came out regardless. Had it not come out, and years later, no matter how many years, I heard someone else had accused him....I stand up and back them. ///

/// You haven't a clue what it's like to be a victim...it's something that never ever leaves you...ever!! ///

Don't get in such a humph, I did not say I had any clue to being a victim, what on earth as your experience (however bad they must have been) to do with this debate?

Unless of course you are saying that Bill Roache was indeed guilty and that you feel sorry for these women, and what they (like yourself) went though?.

[FredPuli43]

And, AOG, whether a teacher acquitted of sexual assault keeps their job, or whether they can get another job in teaching, is a fine illustration of the standard of proof. There may be sufficient evidence to make an employer or potential employer think that the teacher is not suitable but there was not evidence which satisfied a jury beyond a reasonable doubt. Different standards of proof apply.

And the Bar Council could well decide the same about a barrister who was acquitted of a crime.

[jim360]

As far as I can tell, AOG, there is rather a lot more evidence to have you prosecuted of defamation charges against these women than there is of them being charged for perjury.

And have you never in your life used sarcasm to make a point on AB? Of course you have! You're in no position whatsoever to talk about "engaging in adult debate".

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2358759/Leanne-Black-finally-jailed-FIVE-false-rape-allegations-ex-boyfriends-years.html

/// There are no penalties for women who bring false rape charges ///

/// A false rape accusation is not merely an attack on a man’s character. It is an attempt to kidnap, imprison, torture, and perhaps murder an innocent man. It is a profoundly evil act, and yet there are often no consequences for women who make false rape accusations. Consider the case of Leanne Black, who accused five different men of rape before she was sentenced to two years in prison. Or Ashleigh Loder, who spent just six months in jail for a false rape accusation. ///

http://www.returnofkings.com/22079/the-truth-about-false-rape-accusations-that-all-men-should-know

[Zeuhl]

/since you are not grown up enough to refrain from this type of thing, I now consider it pointless to continue to join you in further adult debate. /

'Don't get in such a humph' aog

[ummmm]

Not guilty doesn't mean innocent..

Is that really hard to understand?

[mikey4444]

None of us were in the Court these last few weeks ( I presume ) so the Jury is the best source of whether Roache is guilty or not. But it follows that they came to the conclusion that he was speaking the truth, and therefore it must also follow that they thought the women involved were not.

But the CPS should now be contemplating whether it was in the best interest to bring a case against somebody, the events of which occurred over 50 years ago. I can't remember where I was or what I was doing 50 years ago and it would unrealistic to expect most other people to remember as well.

[ummmm]

Mikey...you might remember if you were a victim of sexual abuse.

[ChillDoubt]

Sexual assault is a horrendous crime.

To do such a thing is evil, and can ruin someone's life.

The perpetrator should be named, exposed, and publicly shunned.
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I agree. But only once their guilt has been ascertained and the case proven. Throughout the trial, both sides should be entitled to anonymity unless they wish to waive such rights as ought to be afforded them.
Unfortunately, they never are.