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Roache Not Guilty Of All Charges
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Just flashed up on Sky.
Can't say I'm surprised.
Can't say I'm surprised.
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Ummmm...Yes of course, you are right...I would remember. But would my recall of events be sufficiently detailed and accurate enough after so many years ? Would I be able to remember what I clothes I had on, or what day of the week that the offence occurred on ? Would I be a good witness in Court ?
In a Court, it is the prosecutor's job to prove that the defendant is guilty... its not the job of the defendant to prove his innocence, although most do, as it is the best way defend themselves. The Jury preferred to believe Roach rather than his anonymous accusers.
In a Court, it is the prosecutor's job to prove that the defendant is guilty... its not the job of the defendant to prove his innocence, although most do, as it is the best way defend themselves. The Jury preferred to believe Roach rather than his anonymous accusers.
I was attacked when I was 13.
I remember exactly what I was wearing, what time of day it was, what I had been up to that day but for the life of me I couldn't tell you the date. I think my brain has removed that information from my memory to prevent me reliving it (even more) on the anniversary.
I didn't report it. Mostly because I think if nobody believed me and the courts had found the attacker not guilty everyone's assumption would be that I had lied. I couldn't live with that.
I remember exactly what I was wearing, what time of day it was, what I had been up to that day but for the life of me I couldn't tell you the date. I think my brain has removed that information from my memory to prevent me reliving it (even more) on the anniversary.
I didn't report it. Mostly because I think if nobody believed me and the courts had found the attacker not guilty everyone's assumption would be that I had lied. I couldn't live with that.
As none of us were actually in the courtroom and have only gleaned what little information we have through the media, none of us can know why the jury reached this verdict. It may well be that they had an element of doubt as some of you suggest. But it could just as easily be that they did not believe a word the accusers spoke. We will never know.
If a woman is shown to willfully invent a story about a man raping or sexually assaulting her, she can be prosecuted.
There have been a number of recent cases where this has happened.
However, there is no evidence that this is the case in the William Roache case.
People talk about 'vile accusations'. Well, that's what rape is. Let's be clear - just because a man is found 'not guilty' of rape/sexual assault, does not mean that the person accusing them is guilty of wasting police time.
AOG - if your daughter had been raped by a gang of lads, who all got off on a technicality, would you support her prosecution for wasting police time?
There have been a number of recent cases where this has happened.
However, there is no evidence that this is the case in the William Roache case.
People talk about 'vile accusations'. Well, that's what rape is. Let's be clear - just because a man is found 'not guilty' of rape/sexual assault, does not mean that the person accusing them is guilty of wasting police time.
AOG - if your daughter had been raped by a gang of lads, who all got off on a technicality, would you support her prosecution for wasting police time?
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/// AOG - if your daughter had been raped by a gang of lads, who all got off on a technicality, would you support her prosecution for wasting police time? ///
That is totally unfair to bring it down to a personal level, even if you found that your daughter had falsely accused the boys most fathers would still be on the side of their daughter.
All I am saying that there should be some equality, but by your very wording you assume that Roache got off on a technicality, so there is nothing more to say.
/// AOG - if your daughter had been raped by a gang of lads, who all got off on a technicality, would you support her prosecution for wasting police time? ///
That is totally unfair to bring it down to a personal level, even if you found that your daughter had falsely accused the boys most fathers would still be on the side of their daughter.
All I am saying that there should be some equality, but by your very wording you assume that Roache got off on a technicality, so there is nothing more to say.
Fred...I understand that the Jury came back with their verdict after 30 mins, although I can't confirm that anywhere at present. If it is true however, it doesn't appear to show that they had much in the way of doubt about their verdict. If they were not sure, wouldn't they still be in the Jury Room ?
There is also another factor in this case. A further charge of indecent assault against Roach was dropped last week :::
"A fifth indecent assault charge was dropped due to insufficient evidence after the woman, who accused him of abusing her in his car, told the court she had "no actual memory" of the episode " ( BBC News website) If she no actual memory of the event, it beggars belief why the charge was brought in the first place.
If the same Jury that gave the not guilty verdict today, were also present when that charge was dropped, might that not have effected their subsequent verdicts on the remaining charges ? Its difficult to understand how it can't have had some effect, at least, no matter what the Judge would have said to the Jury.
I bow to your superior knowledge with this sort of thing of course.
There is also another factor in this case. A further charge of indecent assault against Roach was dropped last week :::
"A fifth indecent assault charge was dropped due to insufficient evidence after the woman, who accused him of abusing her in his car, told the court she had "no actual memory" of the episode " ( BBC News website) If she no actual memory of the event, it beggars belief why the charge was brought in the first place.
If the same Jury that gave the not guilty verdict today, were also present when that charge was dropped, might that not have effected their subsequent verdicts on the remaining charges ? Its difficult to understand how it can't have had some effect, at least, no matter what the Judge would have said to the Jury.
I bow to your superior knowledge with this sort of thing of course.
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