Is Life This Cheap In 21St Century England?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2567496/Pictured-Shocking-moment-doting-son-killed-single-punch-head-row-cycling-pavement-killer-jailed-just-four-half-years.html

Four and half years that is all this thug got for killing a man, why can't such savages be made more of an example of?

[emmie]

if you hit someone with a brick you may not kill them, if he falls back as this chap did and cracked his head then that is the problem. I think the intent was to hurt, a blow like that could kill, it could have caused him immediate brain damage, without having fallen to the ground. Whatever the situation it's an incredibly lenient sentence

[Zeuhl]

Indded em

Clearly there was 'malice aforethought'

unlike the negligence of texting while driving

[emmie]

i will never understand anyone who does that, tx whilst driving, talking on mobile, or doing something that takes your attention away from the road.

[sp1814]

I don't think that anyone who punches someone can be considered 'a savage'.

I've been in fights (albeit many years ago), in which I've punched someone - but I've been lucky in that they didn't fall back and hit their head.

[emmie]

did you look at the footage, suggest that's a boxers type punch, meant to hurt, not a pattycake tap to warn the man off.

[emmie]

and i have been in the middle of some punch ups, they are horrible and frightening. one where bottles and glasses were thrown.

[emmie]

so he did.

[Zeuhl]

/i will never understand anyone who does that, tx whilst driving, talking on mobile, or doing something that takes your attention away from the road./

I've done it

Most times it's ok and does no harm

Until the one time it isn't!

[emmie]

to me that's utterly reprehensible, anything can happen.

[Zeuhl]

/anything can happen/

but mostly doesn't

which is why people think they can get away with it

ditto retuning the radio, the gps, lighting a fag, looking for a sweetie, slapping the kids in the back seat etc etc

[Zeuhl]

BTW

these days, like many people, i have voice activated/hands free gizmos

but they still require some 'hands-on' attention

anyway, our unconscious mind does most of our driving anyway :-)

[emmie]

i know all of that, and having sat in the car with someone who continually chatted on a mobile whilst driving, i finally asked them not to do it, not whilst i was in the car.

[emmie]

actually it doesn't, your unconscious mind can make you feel safe when you are not, like the cyclists i see, no hands on the handle bars, or riding over red lights, no thoughts that they are putting themselves and others in danger.

[Zeuhl]

/actually it doesn't, your unconscious mind/

actually it does

ask any driver how often they've driven a regular route with something on their mind and on arrival not been able to remember driving major parts of the journey

Thank you unconscious mind!

[Prudie]

Unfortunately you could spend a weekend night in Bournemouth near the clubs and see people punching one another like this all the time. Luckily it doesn't usually end in such a tragic outcome, people just don't think or care.

[emmie]

the man was a thug, and killed a man, he should go to jail for longer, i know that won't bring the man back, but four years for taking a life, seems wrong.

[TTG]

Will probably receive better meals that you or I.

[keyplus90]

We are becoming more and more "civilised"..............

[emmie]

keyplus, as opposed to who.