Lee Rigby

[emmie]

should the killers of Lee Rigby ever come out of prison. They up for sentencing today.

http://news.sky.com/story/1217418/lee-rigbys-killers-could-die-behind-bars

[naomi24]

Emmie, that'll do.

[emmie]

i am off out now, i hope that the sentence is life and no parole.

[naomi24]

AOG, it depends what you mean by what is happening in Africa. The murder of Lee Rigby certainly results from the influence of religion.

[ummmm]

It takes two people to make a baby!

Despite what many on here think prison is no picnic, it's not the holiday camp the media likes to portray, prison will be punishment and I very much doubt they will ever get out.

[emmie]

it not supposed to be a picnic, for those that commit crimes, some shouldn't go to prison, daft sentences for no tv licence, but many that commit these heinous crimes shouldn't ever be released, they have no chance of redemption, rehabilitation, and i wouldn't ever trust the security, police, and whatever other agency involved who has to monitor them once out to keep tabs.

[joeluke]

ummmm.....'Despite what many on here think prison is no picnic, it's not the holiday camp the media likes to portray'

Maybe not but it's also not the deterrent it should be

Prisoners get far too many 'rights'. Facilities and piviledges should be minimal.

Exercise shouldn't be in a prison gym, it should be out in the prison yard without equipment.

'Holiday camp' items such as games consoles, pool tables etc have no place in prisons

[ummmm]

Joe - in cat A prisons they will be looked up for 23 hours a day.

[TWR]

I can not understand why this case has taken this long to come to court! that pratt was seen to do the killing, he was seen by witnesses, the evidence is there, why should it cost thousands to put this case together? In my mind only one thing justifies these types of people, the rope. come on HR Bridgade, Comment on these evil type of scum.

[mikey4444]

Baldric...I had quite a lot of Corporal Punishment when I was a boy growing up in the 50's and 60's, and it never did me any harm. But I expect you meant Capital !

[naomi24]

TWR, there had to be a trial, not least because the perpetrators denied the charge of murder. They claimed their action was a justified act of war.

[TWR]

How can that be denied when it was televised?

[Baldric]

Mikey4444, Correct, I should have said 'Capital'
What a mistake to maka!
At least you knew what I meant.

[naomi24]

TWR, they didn't deny killing him - they admitted they killed him - but they denied 'murdering' him. They claimed the killing was justified because it was an act of war. Killing isn't necessarily murder - and that's what their defence depended upon.

[ToraToraTora]

No

[TWR]

Naomi, I did not see them in combat suites, It was not a case of warfare in my opinion, this idiot thought he was clever, but I wonder if he would have signed up to protect this country?

[naomi24]

TWR, it wasn't a case of warfare in any sensible person's opinion - but these people aren't sensible. They're fanatical madmen.

[Baldric]

I don't think he would, he was on the other side!

[Gromit]

The "eye for an eye" justification for killing innocent people is not just used a defence used by mixed up Nigerians.

After 9/11 the US wanted an "Eye for an Eye" so they invaded Iraq resulting in far more innocent civilians dying than in the US.

Evil religious mantras should not be used by anyone to justify killing, but sadly it still is, from the very top to the very bottom of society.

[Kromovaracun]

Do we really have to do the "No! I'm more outraged!" competition thing? We all agree the crime was despicable, and the evidence of their guilt overwhelming.

Personally, to be quite honest, I don't particularly care how comfortable their prisons are, or whether they deserve to be killed or not. I care firstly about whether they will ever be able to harm the public again (which looks unlikely), and secondly whether it is possible that we can learn anything from them that might contribute to preventing other attacks in future.

[TWR]

Madman! It does not come into Naomi, I have worked and supported persons that are termed mad, he knew exactly what intentions were, Lee was in the army, the scum did not have the BALLS to fight for this country, if he likes Afghanistan he should have pizzed off there.