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Hoiday Snap Of A Liberal Democrat Councillor And Magistrate

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anotheoldgit | 12:18 Thu 27th Mar 2014 | News
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2590036/Liberal-Democrat-councillor-magistrate-poses-photograph-AK-47-ASSAULT-RIFLE.html

Should he now be 'fired'?

What I can't understand, this has been his profile picture on Twitter since September but it is said that it has only recently been brought to light.

His excuse was "I am running for election this year and I think the opposition have picked it up and are trying to summon up some dirt about it".

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LazyGun - "I can only speak from personal experience here, but I know 2 judges sort of socially, both of whom shoot regularly - clay pidgeons and hunting mostly, but one attends a firing range too - and both have probably got photographs of them with a gun in hand. Are you saying that neither of these guys should be considered suitable material for being a...
13:39 Thu 27th Mar 2014
Ha ha...great thread.
Naomi,
Just as our attitudes to guns are different, so are our perceptions of immigrants. The US nation was built on immigration from everywhere. A Blackman with a gun is quite normal as millions of black men have legal gun permits. That is different in this country.
A story of a LibDem councillor posing with an AK47 is a good story for the Mail to run. The fact that he is Asian and looks like our enemy makes it a great story for them. AOG posts everyday on any story in the Mail involving foreigners, so it is not a surprise to me he has posted this one - I would be surprised if he hadn't posted about it.
Gromit, the picture does not simply portray a black man with a gun. Obama's picture does - and I don't think anyone would be alarmed by that - but this one doesn't. He looks like a terrorist.

The Mail isn't the only paper carrying the story. Others, including the Telegraph, carried it too - and here's the latest from the BBC.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-26764022

By the way, we have two guns in our house so I don't automatically baulk at a picture of someone holding a gun.
What makes him look like a terrorist?

Is he displaying a serious lack of taste, perhaps fatal to his political ambitions within the LIb-Dems, in wearing that Chav scarf?
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ummmm

/// What makes him look like a terrorist? ///

I will say this once again, because he fits the stereotype image of what a present day terrorist looks like, yes of course his skin colour goes some way to promote this image, seeing that most terrorists these days happen to have a darker skin, that together with him posing with an assault weapon, just about clinches it unfortunately.

Any school child would come up with a similar description if you asked them to draw or describe a terrorist, show them the picture and they would not say he is a councillor, a magistrate or even that it is a holiday photo of someone in India.

Now do you see?
He is wearing a type of riding jacket and a Burberry scarf so no, he doesn't look like a terrorist to me.
Ummmm, look at the picture. Why do you think it's caused a problem for him?
If I were his mate and he showed me that picture, I would've told him not to post it on Twitter, because it'll be contextually confusing to many people.

When I look at the link, I don't think 'terrorist', because he's obviously Indian (his name, the picture in the background), and I don't link Indians with terrorism.

However, it's all about perception and context.

If the same fella was photographed with an AK-47 at the same rifle range that me and my mates went to outside Las Vegas a few year back, in the sun, grinning...contextually, it would say something completely different.

But this photo is a major mistake. It just plays into stereotypes.

And then to complain that his political enemies were behind the leak?

Mate...if you're going to post the shot on Twitter, then YOU are the source of the leak.
One readers comments "Why can't he just bite the bullet and come clean instead of shooting down his accusers for rifling through his private pictures".

The bloke looks a right pillock in the pic.

I don't think being a right pillock is necessarily a debarment to serving on a local council as a Lib-Dem representative.
I'm not suggesting it shouldn't cause a problem. Posting it on twitter was stupid thing to do. Still doesn't make him look like a terrorist to me.
The terrorist thing is a bit of a red herring. He could also be one of those nutters that's about to go off and randomly shoot a load of people at the local school.

The main problem is he looks like a nob posing with a gun like a big kid. Ok for the family album perhaps, (look - that's the time I visited uncle so-and-so and held a big gun), but it's not a photo a politician should be making public unless they want to come in for this kind of criticism.

Gromit's photos are not comparable - the Obama one for instance shows him in a sporting situation. If he'd been posing the same as the Atwal bloke, there'd be a fuss about it, even in America.
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ummmm

/// He is wearing a type of riding jacket and a Burberry scarf so no, he doesn't look like a terrorist to me. ///

Why, what is the 'terrorist about town' wearing these days?
Exactly, AOG, what does a terrorist look like?

To me it's a bloke holding a gun in much the way the ludwig describes. One for the family album, not twitter.
.. but as Ludwig says //If he'd (Obama) been posing the same as the Atwal bloke, there'd be a fuss about it, even in America. //
/// He is wearing a type of riding jacket and a Burberry scarf so no, he doesn't look like a terrorist to me. ///

He's probably about to go grouse shooting. Apparently it's easier with a machine gun.

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