Farage Beats Clegg Convincingly.

[Gromit]

Who'd have thought it?


At the General Election televised leaders debate, Clegg did very well, probably beating both Cameron and Brown. Now in the EU debate, the underdog Farage has won both debates. I must admit the result surprises me.

[Brenden]

I think Cleggy forgot he was also a MEP for a few years, the gall of the man - well done Nigel.

[Orderlimit]

"I'm absolutely delighted we had this debate," Mr Clegg said.

"David Cameron and Ed Miliband don't want to have the debate. They don't have the courage to say what they think.

"At least I have the courage to get up and say this is what I believe even though I know what I'm saying is not popular.

[mikey4444]

If this is a genuine quote from Clegg, than I agree. Someone has to stand up to The Joker. What a pity it wasn't someone who could make a better job of it though.

[emmie]

perhaps if Clegg didn't change his mind all the time, another wishy washy liberal

[joggerjayne]

Beatings Clegg ...

#settingalowbar

[emmie]

he is deputy PM remember, he is supposed to know his stuff, he should come out with real facts, figure, and genuinely pound Farage into the dust, he didn't - he looks like a six former about to take his first debate in college, and looking like a no mark doing it.

[mikey4444]

I think he is a deputy PM in name only. dave had to give him something in return for his 30 pieces of silver. The real debate is between Ed and dave, and I am sure we see them live on the telly a bit closer to next May. As I have already said, UKIP and the LibDems are not going to win next years Election...Ed or dave will. I'm not sure that we are doing ourselves any favours by giving Farage the oxygen of publicity.

[Orderlimit]

"I'm not sure that we are doing ourselves any favours by giving Farage the oxygen of publicity"

Surely its called democracy, something you SWP & UAF lot don't agree with.

The quotes in my previous post were copied from the BBC News site.

[emmie]

Farage has followers and he is entitled to air his views, called democracy in action

[jomifl]

It would be more democratic if Farage wasn't allowed to get away with telling lies, half truths and complete bollucks. He forgot to mention that clever little Iceland went bust and had to be bailed out and that the Swiss economy is supported by international criminals and money launderers.

[Orderlimit]

Here

[mikey4444]

I never doubted that for one minute emmie, and he is entitled to his views.
I am merely pointing out, as I have many times before, that UKIP are not going to win the May 2015 Election. The party may influence the outcome but even that may not mount up to anything much. There are lots of minor parties on the hustings but nobody else has as much publicity as Farage.

[Orderlimit]

"I never doubted that for one minute emmie, and he is entitled to his views.
I am merely pointing out...."

No, you posted your usual uninformed hysterical banal childish insults.

[mikey4444]

Orderlimit...you have descended into personal abuse. Not sure why, as I have not made any similar comments against you. Most of us disagree at some time or other, but what you have just posted is not acceptable. I recommend that you read the Editors header, at the top of the news section.

[ganesh]

Surely what everyone wants to know is what are the real facts. What real differences would it make if we were out. I actually watched it for a while hoping for this but it was just point-scoring, insulting each other like a couple of kids, you said this, you said that. It shouldn't have been a who beat who, it should be a debate on which would be best. Politicians just p me off- I turned it off, none the wiser.

[New Judge]

"He forgot to mention that clever little Iceland went bust and had to be bailed out and that the Swiss economy is supported by international criminals and money launderers."

I don't think Iceland's problems were caused by them being "outsiders", jomifl, and I don't believe those problems would have been avoided had they been members. Also, you forgot to mention one or two other non-EU nations, jomifl. Like Norway for example.

[Orderlimit]

Blimey mikey, thats a bit awkward coming from you. I suggest you go back and read your historic post on this site where you routinely refer to other posters comments as drivel without explaining why, posters lacking common sense, and of course, calling posters racist. (or the current SWP/UAF, ism or phobic word of the month).

But, you're right, I shouldn't descend down that route.

[emmie]

members of the club who have gone belly up, or to put it in their parlance had to be bailed out, Greece, for one, Ireland for another, how many more are in dire financial straits, how many are we having to support because their economies are not remotely robust. This idea that we are in this all encompassing club sharing the pot is absurd, it doesn't work like that, nor the freedom of movement of individuals, as how many British want to live in Lithuania, Romania, Greece even, how many have good enough industries that British can work in those and other smaller countries in the EU, its a fallacy and been put forward by those who have a vested interest. We have widely differing economies, widely differing industries and quite frankly i am heartily sick of listening to every known language but the one i understand, English.

[New Judge]

Wow !!! ^^^

And there's me thinking I was the only "fruitcake" around here !! :-)

[emmie]

i am not a fruitcake, not yet, but i could end up voting for Farage as i don't care for any of the main parties.