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Niel Hamilton
Niel Hamilton, former Tory MP .Who is now UKIPs Campaign Manager,is to visit Gibraltar next week to help launch the partys EU Election Campaign. There is no stopping these free loaders, even with a Prison sentence behind him .
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Tora // GIB is non EU already // As mentioned above, it does vote in the European elections and IS part of the EU. // South West England (Cornish: Dychow- houlsedhas Pou an Zouzn) is a constituency of the European Parliament. For 2009 it elects 6 MEPs using the d'Hondt method of party-list proportional representati on, reduced from 7 in 2004. The constituency...
08:21 Fri 04th Apr 2014
Its seems that Gromit is correct here TTT, and Gib is seen as part of the West Country, Euro elections-wise, but I didn't know that either. Gold Star to Gromit for his research ! Not sure about your conclusions though. I trust Labour and the LidDems also field candidates that Gib could vote for ?
But to repeat myself, its what UKIP can do in a General Election is what counts, and I still can't see that they will have much of a effect, except to steal votes from Labour and the Tories, more importantly the latter.
But to repeat myself, its what UKIP can do in a General Election is what counts, and I still can't see that they will have much of a effect, except to steal votes from Labour and the Tories, more importantly the latter.
Mikey
The south West England Constituency has 6 MEPs after a Proportional representation vote. Labour and the LibDems do field candidates but no one votes for them. Currently, the PR vote translates into 4 Conservative MEPs and 2 UKiP ones.
Since the last vote in 2009 relations between Spain and Gibralter have worsened. An anti-Spain feeling could result in an anti-EU vote from Gibraltarians. As UKiP are the only openly anti-EU party, they may win the majority of votes in Gibralta which may in turn, tip the PR vote in South West England to UKiP favour.
I will try to remember this thread next month when the EU vote results comes in, and if UKiP do take 7 seats from the Conservatives, whether any of them are in this Constotuency.
The south West England Constituency has 6 MEPs after a Proportional representation vote. Labour and the LibDems do field candidates but no one votes for them. Currently, the PR vote translates into 4 Conservative MEPs and 2 UKiP ones.
Since the last vote in 2009 relations between Spain and Gibralter have worsened. An anti-Spain feeling could result in an anti-EU vote from Gibraltarians. As UKiP are the only openly anti-EU party, they may win the majority of votes in Gibralta which may in turn, tip the PR vote in South West England to UKiP favour.
I will try to remember this thread next month when the EU vote results comes in, and if UKiP do take 7 seats from the Conservatives, whether any of them are in this Constotuency.
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Mikey
// not sure if PR is really working.
It seems that PR is resulting in a strange sort of democracy, where the makeup of MEPs in a region bears no resemblance to Westminster representation. //
In South West England, the Conservatives got 30% of the vote and got two thirds of the seats. UKiP got 22% of the vote and got one third of the seats.
This Euro Constitency is represented by 55 Westminster MPs. At Westminster elections, the first past the post system resuted in the Conservatives winning 36 seats and UKiP winning none.
We are obviously comparing two different elections, Euro 2009 and UK 2010 run under two different voting systems, but maybe it is the Westminster system that isn't working and is not resulting in a fair representation of people who vote?
// not sure if PR is really working.
It seems that PR is resulting in a strange sort of democracy, where the makeup of MEPs in a region bears no resemblance to Westminster representation. //
In South West England, the Conservatives got 30% of the vote and got two thirds of the seats. UKiP got 22% of the vote and got one third of the seats.
This Euro Constitency is represented by 55 Westminster MPs. At Westminster elections, the first past the post system resuted in the Conservatives winning 36 seats and UKiP winning none.
We are obviously comparing two different elections, Euro 2009 and UK 2010 run under two different voting systems, but maybe it is the Westminster system that isn't working and is not resulting in a fair representation of people who vote?
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