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ToraToraTora | 08:27 Wed 14th May 2014 | News
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it just occurred to me that I have not noticed any protestations from "moderate" Islam over the kidnapping of the school girls. Are the media omitting to report it or is there tacit support? It seems a good opportunity for Islam to demonstrate to the west that they are serious about their opposition to extremists.
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no I think there are 200 m mixed christians and muslims protesting about this in Nigeria...
You must have missed it TTT. And condemnation from the very top too...

// (Reuters) - Saudi Arabia's grand mufti, the top religious authority in the birthplace of Islam, has condemned Nigeria's Boko Haram as a group "set up to smear the image of Islam" and condemned its kidnapping of over 200 schoolgirls.

Sheikh Abdulaziz Al al-Sheikh said the radical movement, which says it wants to establish a "pure" Islamic state in Nigeria, was "misguided" and should be "shown their wrong path and be made to reject it."

His remarks came as religious leaders in the Muslim world, who often do not comment on militant violence, joined in denouncing Boko Haram leader Abubakar Shekau for saying Allah had told him to sell off the kidnapped girls as forced brides.

"This is a group that has been set up to smear the image of Islam and must be offered advice, shown their wrong path and be made to reject it," he told the Arabic-language newspaper al-Hayat in an interview published on Friday. //
Yeah TTT
and you also missed Mrs President - apparently 40% of the USof A think he - the husband - is a muslim - so she'll do

she came out against it.

The thing that stands out for me is the uniform opinion that the western powers are doing diddly squat about this, when it is obviously an internal Nigerian thing and they are doing diddly squat ....
You have missed it, TTT - it's being condemned far and wide.
I'd missed this too. It seems that moderate Muslims have to shout very loud indeed at the moment before people start to hear...
nobody listens to moderates, Jim. It's part of the job spec: say all you want, nobody will hear.
///"set up to smear the image of Islam///
what an odd choice of expression. set up by whom?
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fair enough Gromit, "Grand Mufti" -sounds like something out of Star Wars!
and "Prime Minister" sounds like Jean Brodie in a nurses uniform
The religion doesn't seem to matter much. Extremists are heard and "moderates", well, they don't make "headlines" that sell.
No moderate muslims Islam will not tolerate being diluted - so you either believe the Quran as is - or you are an infidel.
You haven't seen the crowds of Muslims with banners reading ''Not in my name'?
How strange !!
The violence in Nigeria is largely sectarian and has been going on for a long time. A hundred years ago the British merged a Christain area with a Muslim one, and there have been trouble ever since. It is hitting the headlines now because the US have decided Boko Haram are a terrorist group with links to Al Qaeda. So the religious violence that has occurred for decades now takes on a different dimension and gets reported as extremist terrorist activity.

The Christians do their fair share of massacring as well and I have not heard you Christians condemning it.


// Saturday, 23 January 2010

More victims of deadly religious clashes in central Nigeria have been found, with scores of bodies stuffed in wells and sewage pits.

Correspondents say elders hid in holes for seven hours to escape the violence.
An exact death toll is not known but overall 300 or more are thought to have died in the Muslim-Christian clashes.
Muslim officials in Jos who spoke to the campaign group Human Rights Watch said 364 Muslims had been killed. //

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/8476534.stm
bellicose Christians picking on peaceful muslims.
somehow its always our fault, strange that. It has been widely condemned, but quite honestly who is listening, not the thugs who have taken the girls, they want the release of terrorists, their comrades in arms, give in to them and like Somali piracy it will keep on happening. Getting the girls back is a priority, however going on the level of violence these people seem to use, i wonder if they won't harm them anyway, or haven't already.
They have got them to convert to Islam from their Christian faith,
pictures wearing the customary burkha, such a peaceful religion, or is it simply an excuse to murder, rape, maim the ordinary citizens as they seem to have been doing for so long.

/somehow its always our fault, strange that./

the facts are the facts emmie

it's no use hiding from them or filtering just for the bits that suit us
i don't know enough about Nigeria, so was reading some of this, where does it say that one part was largely Christian, and the other largely Islamic,
i will read it at length later, to see if it become a bit clearer.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigeria
// Long the site of numerous kingdoms and empires, the modern state of Nigeria has its origins in the British colonization of the region during the late nineteenth to early twentieth centuries, emerging from the combination of two neighboring British protectorates: (the Southern Nigeria Protectorate and Northern Nigeria Protectorate).

Nigeria is roughly divided in half between Christians, who mostly live in the Southern and central parts of the country, and Muslims, concentrated mostly in the North and South-West. //
No, indeed Tora Tora Tora, as per usual, the response to any "wrong doings" by other Islamists is well : The Silence is Deafening" !
PP why should the 'western powers' do anything else but diddly squat? It isn't our business we are not the saviours of the world. The Nigerians have had aid and everyone worldwide has been condemning the actions of the kidnappers. Which to my mind is why the Grand Mufti et el is distancing themselves from these nutters. Whatever the truth is about Islam it is showing them in a bad light, which is nothing new.

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