Would You Be Happy For Romanians To Move Next Door?

[ToraToraTora]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-27459923
Seems like Ferage is just being honest to me.

[tonyav]

Lol, me thinks I'm right, chuck.

[kvalidir]

'Chuck'? Seriously? In what's supposed to be a sensible debate?
Do you actually have anything to add to the debate or are you just going to rubbish the opinions of anyone who disagrees with the UKIP hysteria (because they DO actually have fist hand experience of eastern european immigrants and have found the offensive stereotypes to be no more true than they are of any other race)?

[Svejk]

LOL, me thinks that some on here have no first hand experience. ///

Hit the nail right on the head, tony.

[tonyav]

Well your experience must be different to mine then, chuck.

[gness]

I guess I have been really lucky with my neighbours of all nationalities ...well except for one lot of thieving, fighting, grubby ones....English I think they were.

So my long experience has been of happy and helpful neighbours....there is a story...too long for here...of a man moving and getting the neighbours he deserves....☺

[kvalidir]

Must be because I'm a 'lower middle class champagne socialist' eh Svejk, when of course I am actually none of those things.
I hate it when what could have been a stimulating debate turns into something as childish as this.

[DTCwordfan]

Actually, this immigration thing, workwise, is relatively easy to solve, the US are having the same problem with Mexicans and Cubans......the issue that goes against it being the freedom of movement within the EEC. Change the base agreement and it's simple. Want to know how?

[DTCwordfan]

Changing immigration law so that jobs must be offered to a given nationality of a country for a period of x months. Failing no candidacy for the positions, then it can be offered to other nations - within the European community. Certain specialist jobs, scientific, trading, medicine, etc etc could be defined and exempted from this.

On acceptance, an immigrant may enter but generally without family, his/her basic medical rights covered etc, until he/she has done a qualification time, say 5 or 7 years, and then immediate family (spouse/kids) can enter, not grandparents, Auntie Flo or Uncle Tzzwyyyxwycz, basic proficiency in English expected within one year, the UK cultural sections of embassies to help in this.

Any crime (guilty, naturally) and immediate expulsion after sentence, no reapplication for a minimum of seven years.

The rest of the world fall behind the EEC in this.

[tonyav]

Yes, i'd like to know, DT.

[tonyav]

Sorry, DT, crossed posts.

[Svejk]

Sorry, but we are just relating our real-life experience of the subject. Interesting that apart from you everyone on this thread that lived near or worked with them had a negative experience. Everyone who thinks they're ok is saying IF they moved next door. IF I had to work with them. Rather like milliband and clegg, they know that's not going to happen any time soon.

[DTCwordfan]

Now obviously the concept needs a lot of fleshing out, but start with the principles and, before you machine-gun me down, let's see constructive and thought through propositions as alternatives.....

[Svejk]

I wouldn't argue, dt.

[DTCwordfan]

Who is that directed at, Svejk? - if me, we have ample down here from fishing to daffy to asparagus picking, never mind the Eastern European tourists (which are on the increase, esp Poland and the Baltic states).

One of the issue should be how they are being housed if God's minority county practices are anything to go by.

[tonyav]

Neither would I.

[Svejk]

I was answering klavidir, who doesn't like us posting. ;-)

[DTCwordfan]

It applies to the Spanish, Portuguese, Italians, Greeks, Dutch and all the rest equally, the one exemption that may be given, for historical reasons, the Irish?

As to people investing/retiring here, that maybe should be shaped differently - and I expect reciprocity of treatment in all of this from any EEC member country when it comes to us 'exporting' our folk.

[kvalidir]

I'm very happy for you to post Svejk- just not jump to incorrect conclusions about me, who you don't know. Regarding you suggesting I am the only one who has no problem with them having experience , I suggest you re-read the thread, as that is completely incorrect.

[DTCwordfan]

thx svejk.....the Good Soldier has been one of my fav books of all time....