Is This Is What Makes Some Proud To Be British?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2688663/Shameless-Slovak-mother-11-gets-handouts-430-WEEK-says-wont-job-stay-UK-forever.html

Well it doesn't me, but one cannot blame these people, who wouldn't strive for a better life?

One has to blame the EU for it's open borders policy and our politicians for all the benefits bestowed on these immigrants when they arrive here.

[anotheoldgit]

sp1814

Well I have given you the chance of voicing your feelings over this guy, now would you be good enough to equally criticise the family in question, or does it only work one way?

[sp1814]

AOG

You want me to criticise the family without seeing the programme?

Just base it on the Daily Mail's piece?

Okay - my taxes should be used to fund a benefits system which is there as a safety net, not as a lifestyle choice. People who live their lives on benefits and refuse to work are parasites, and that's what this family is.

The mother is not showing a good example to her kids, who may see living on benefits as socially acceptable. It isn't. She is lazy and greedy and like this weeks's racist moron, should be shown up for what she is across the nation.

[anotheoldgit]

sp1814

/// Fact is, when you have a massive tattoo of Hitler across your back, you will look like a racist moron. ///

No a Nazi sympathiser.

/// When you have White Power tattooed onto the back of your neck you will look like a racist moron. ///

Would anyone supporting Black Power, also look like a racist moron?

/// I shall not be supporting this racist moron who is funding his layabout lifestyle with my money. ///

What about the Eastern European family will you be supporting them?

/// Perhaps he cannot find gainful employment because he's a racist
moron? ///

The Slovac. mother refuses to gain employment.

[sp1814]

AOG

Further to your earlier post though - this is not a news story. It is, at best, an 'advertorial' piece.

This is the difference:

"Figures released by the Department of Transport show a marked increase in cyclists in the capital"

That's a news story, as opposed to this:

"A survey released today finds that 30% of Londoners would take the bike to work but are concerned about safety, announced cycle helmet manufacture Bike Assure"

That's churnalism.

It fills pages, but is not in any way 'news' in the traditional sense.

[sp1814]

AOG

I am sure you have family members who fought and died in WWII.

I'm sure that you must feel a degree of antipathy for the gentlemen in question?

Did you see this week's show?

[sp1814]

No...someone who supports the advancement of black people would not be a racist moron.

But couple that with a massive tattoo of say, Idi Amin...and then the sobriquet might fit.

And to have this tattooed in the back of your neck.

What a pillock.

That is just stupid.

Do you agree?

[sp1814]

And going on a TV show...and with cameras rolling, trying to bribe your daughter and son-in-law to vote for UKIP.

What...a...moron...

Seriously.

But as I mentioned before, he keeps his house spotless.

Perhaps he employs a cleaning lady with our money.

[anotheoldgit]

sp1814

/// No...someone who supports the advancement of black people would not be a racist moron. ///

So 'power' amounts to advancement then?

What about the right for some to support the advancement of white people?

[sp1814]

AOG

Before I answer that, can I hear what you think about an Englishman sporting a massive Hitler tattoo.

Do you feel that's insulting to those who died fighting against the Germans in WWII?

And do you get what I mean about churnalism? This isn't a specific dig at the Daily Mail...all the major news outlets are guilty (newspapers more so than other media).

[anotheoldgit]

sp1814

/// Perhaps he employs a cleaning lady with our money. ///

And how do you think the 'visitors' to our shores spend our money?

Come on you have been given a chance to criticise our own, and have done most eloquently, complete with some of the usual insulting expletives.

So I ask you again can you now please, give equal criticism against the Slavac benefit claimants? After all this was the original news story in question?

[sp1814]

AOG

You wrote:

"So I ask you again can you now please, give equal criticism against the Slavac benefit claimants?"

Please see my post from 15:41.

[sp1814]

Also...I don't believe I used any expletives.

Or did I?

[anotheoldgit]

I address this to the AB adjudicators, would this be a more appropriate thread in which to include the post, which you earlier removed from another thread?

[sp1814]

I am totally lost now.

But whilst we're waiting for the AB Adjudicator, and seeing as I have answered your questions, why not have a go at answering mine?

[New Judge]

Regardless of which esteemed organ published this story there seems to be no dispute that the basic facts are true or thereabouts. I imagine it's just the sort of case William Beveridge had in mind when he identified the five Giant Evils.

[ummmm]

Is AOG talking in code?

[Bazile]

This is a serious enquiry .

What is the statistics for those who have been on the dole, long term amongst the ' indegenous' population ?

It would appear to me that the mail would help matters somewhat , by comparing those figures against the recent arrivals in teh immigrant population

[anotheoldgit]

sp1814

/// Please see my post from 15:41. ///

I really don't think 1 out of 10 is a very fair balance of opinion.

/// Also...I don't believe I used any expletives. ///

Are these words 'racist moron', just 'moron', and 'Pillock' not expletives?

[anotheoldgit]

Bazile

That is not the point, obviosly we have our own share of benefit scroungers without the need of adding to them.

And the numbers of the indigenous ones are bound to outstrip those of the minorities, by the very meaning of the word.

Didn't the Daily Mail also equally reported on both sides of the fence?

[sp1814]

AOG

I think that what Bazile is referring to, is the percentage of immigrants claiming benefits as a proportion of the total immigrant population.