Why Is This Even Necessary?

[ToraToraTora]

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-politics-28310080
we should follow suit all over UK but what I find remarkable is that smokers are so selfiush that they'll gas their own children rather than wait for a cigarette.

[ummmm]

It shouldn't be.

[Zacs-Master]

So you question why it's necessary and then say 'smokers are so selfiush that they'll gas their own children rather than wait for a cigarette.'

[razza]

Do not tar all smokers with the same brush,the wife and I have never smoked with children inside the car,that includes our own children,grandchildren,great grandchild and any of their friends who have happened to be in the car at the time.However,I think it ought to be banned because anyone smoking in any enclosed space where there are non smokers are heathens.

[ToraToraTora]

Yes Zacs what I'm saying is that it should not be necessary to legislate to stop parents gassing their own children. Why do you find that odd?

[Zacs-Master]

I find it odd because you seem to have answered your own question.

[Zeuhl]

/Why Is This Even Necessary?/

I suppose that:

some people don't accept it is harmful
some people accept it is harmful but don't care
some people do care but lack sufficient self-control

Yes. It is sad.

[mikey4444]

I think you have answered your won question TTT, although it is sad that legislation has to be put in place to force people to act sensibly.

But perhaps smokers are not as sensible as non-smokers....after all they smoke in the first place don't they ? How sensible is that ?

This legislation is long overdue and its nice to see Wales ahead of the pack as usual !

[mikey4444]

Zeuhl...another one for your list...some peopleare stupid ?

[Zeuhl]

mike :-)

I might prefer to say that they lack personal resources LOL

[RATTER15]

I think it is a great idea, the ones it will hit hardest will be Englanders driving into Wales unaware of the laws!

I do love Wales! :-)

and its great being an ex smoker :-)

[WELSHYORKIE]

Whilst we in Wales are preparing to do this, who will be around to enforce it? Mobile phones are still to be seen at drivers ears throughout North Wales, seatbelt laws are frequently flouted. Whilst I support the idea, I can't see the ban working.

[WELSHYORKIE]

Same here Ratter!

[youngmafbog]

Unfortunately many smokers have been selfish in the past and will continue to be. Remember smoking in the office or at lunch etc etc? This is no different, smokers just dont get how repulsive it is to non smokers and how passive smoking can affect people.

[mikey4444]

I am 62 next birthday. In my lifetime I have seen smoking go from being thought glamorous to now being seen as stupid.

When I first started smoking at the age of about 14-15, nearly everybody I knew smoked...parents, Parish Priests, Teachers, Doctors, and sportsmen.
A slightly older contemporary at my Comp. in Swansea was Merve the Swerve ( Mervyn Davies for the non-cognoscenti ! ) His photo was everywhere along the corridors at school, and he was a big hero, him being probably the greatest No. 8 that Wales ever produced. But he was a life-long smoker and died of lung cancer in 2012. I quit smoking in my mid-20's...if I hadn't I wouldn't be here now, of that I have no doubt whatsoever.

Until recently, every Pub and cafe in Wales stunk of smoke and all the tables had overflowing ashtrays on them. Just going to the Pub for an hour meant that you had clothes reeking of cigarette smoke for the rest of the day.

That situation has now changed out of all recognition and legislation has played its part in the change. I welcome this new move and would hope to see it reproduced in other parts of the UK as well.

[mikey4444]

Welshyorkie...many people said the same as you, when the ban on smoking in public places came about a few years ago. And yet now, wherever you go in Wales, even in the roughest areas, you see orderly little knots of smokers standing outside Pubs, sometimes in the rain. Who would have thought we would see that ?

If most cigarette addicts stop smoking in their cars with their kids, then the new law will have achieved something. Lets be brave and pass the law and then see what happens !

[WELSHYORKIE]

I'm with you 100% Mikey - as an ex smoker as well, I detest the smell of the things and cannot abide walking out of shopping centres and into a cloud of smoke. I see plenty of people smoking whilst they have children in the car up here on Anglesey, and the sad little faces looking out from the back windows. Maybe they should be charges with causing grievious bodily harm?

[mikey4444]

When I was young, we lived in London Welshyorkie, and used to go down to Dartmoor for holidays. In those days, it took hours to reach Devon from North London on the A303, and my little brothers and I used to dread the journey, sitting in the back of Dads Austin A35. The drive was long and boring and Dad didn't stop anything like as many times as we would have liked, for us boys to pee !

But what really made the journey more horrible was that Mum and Dad smoked the whole way !

I too feel sorry for all those little kids you see cooped up in smoke-filled cars. Poor mites...I know just how they must feel !

[ToraToraTora]

yep I remember that too mikey, I used to dread it!

[mikey4444]

Smokers ...quit while you can...you have nothing to lose but your chains !

[Zacs-Master]

Especially if your a chain smoker!