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And Now, The End Is Near...
Farewell Nick Griffin. Your party has all but disappeared. And hopefully you will too.
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naomi24
"People who used to vote BNP are now probably voting for UKIP"
This is coming from Nick Griffin. He asserts that the BNP's lack of success is down to people switching from the BNP to UKIP as the natural party of protest against immigration and encroaching power of the European Union.
What is insulting, ignorant or unjustified about that? Surely if one anti-immigration/anti-EU party succeeds at exactly the same time that Britain's other anti-immigration/anti-EU party sees votes collapse, it's only logical to conclude a link between the two events???
"People who used to vote BNP are now probably voting for UKIP"
This is coming from Nick Griffin. He asserts that the BNP's lack of success is down to people switching from the BNP to UKIP as the natural party of protest against immigration and encroaching power of the European Union.
What is insulting, ignorant or unjustified about that? Surely if one anti-immigration/anti-EU party succeeds at exactly the same time that Britain's other anti-immigration/anti-EU party sees votes collapse, it's only logical to conclude a link between the two events???
sp1814 > and generally, even if you have a ticket, it doesn't mean that you will get in. <
10:29 am
wish you would read what i had posted sp1814
> well on the tickets the bbc give out they have some words printed saying having a ticket does not guarantee you entrance to the show
( forget they exact correct wording )
10:02 Tue 22nd Jul 2014 <
10:29 am
wish you would read what i had posted sp1814
> well on the tickets the bbc give out they have some words printed saying having a ticket does not guarantee you entrance to the show
( forget they exact correct wording )
10:02 Tue 22nd Jul 2014 <
DrFilth
So if we both agree on the BBC audience allocation system, why did you conclude:
"normal people who had tickets for the show were turned away because the bbc had given tickets to others they wanted planted in the audience".
This is not what happens.
'Normal people' were turned away because other normal people got there first.
No conspiracy.
So if we both agree on the BBC audience allocation system, why did you conclude:
"normal people who had tickets for the show were turned away because the bbc had given tickets to others they wanted planted in the audience".
This is not what happens.
'Normal people' were turned away because other normal people got there first.
No conspiracy.
naomi24
I think that's because so many people hate the BNP and because of that, wouldn't give them a fair hearing.
I was ambivalent about them...until a mate of mine showed me their Facebook page.
And then there was that time that Nick Griffin published the address of the gay couple who sued the B&B and suggested that BNP supporters go round and 'give them a bit of drama'.
After that, I pretty much fell into the belief that by and large, the BNP were filth.
Obviously - not every one of them could be filth...but an indeterminate percentage.
I think that's because so many people hate the BNP and because of that, wouldn't give them a fair hearing.
I was ambivalent about them...until a mate of mine showed me their Facebook page.
And then there was that time that Nick Griffin published the address of the gay couple who sued the B&B and suggested that BNP supporters go round and 'give them a bit of drama'.
After that, I pretty much fell into the belief that by and large, the BNP were filth.
Obviously - not every one of them could be filth...but an indeterminate percentage.
DrFilth
Once again, I assure you...it would be extremely difficult to rig the audience on the night of QT.
As I say - I know this because a mate of mine has explained exactly how audience wrangling works. I suppose there is an amount of suspicion around this particular edition of QT, but I've yet to be convinced by the argument that the BBC needed to rig the audience or fill it with anti-BNP voters.
I reckon if you chose 150 random shopping centres, sports stadiums, high streets and markets and walked Nick Griffin down them, he would be boo'ed by most right-thinking people.
He's just...not popular.
Once again, I assure you...it would be extremely difficult to rig the audience on the night of QT.
As I say - I know this because a mate of mine has explained exactly how audience wrangling works. I suppose there is an amount of suspicion around this particular edition of QT, but I've yet to be convinced by the argument that the BBC needed to rig the audience or fill it with anti-BNP voters.
I reckon if you chose 150 random shopping centres, sports stadiums, high streets and markets and walked Nick Griffin down them, he would be boo'ed by most right-thinking people.
He's just...not popular.
sorry sp1814 don't agree it was a set up and if there had been no bother with other people getting in after coming later it would not have made the press
you only had to look at the ones in the mob that all hated griffin, even the one on the panel, the black lady sat with her back to him the whole show
you only had to look at the ones in the mob that all hated griffin, even the one on the panel, the black lady sat with her back to him the whole show
naomi24
I'm only going by what Nick Griffin has already pointed out.
Just because the BNP is populated by many thugs and racists, doesn't mean that a decline in their popularity and a rise in UKIP's popularity means that UKIP are a bunch of thugs and racists.
Putting it in base numbers...
If the BNP had 100 votes in an election and UKIP had 1000, and then the BNP vote went down by 50% with every single one of those votes going to UKIP - even if every single BNP voter was a knuck...no...not going to use that term...but even if every one of those 50 former BNP voters was a racist thug, it wouldn't necessarily mean that UKIP were full of racist thugs...because they would still be predominantly non-BNP voters.
Remember - in terms of votes cast, the BNP were no where near as popular as UKIP. So just because former BNP voters may have switched allegiances to UKIP doesn't necessarily reflect badly on UKIP.
Unless it openly started supporting racist policies.
I'm only going by what Nick Griffin has already pointed out.
Just because the BNP is populated by many thugs and racists, doesn't mean that a decline in their popularity and a rise in UKIP's popularity means that UKIP are a bunch of thugs and racists.
Putting it in base numbers...
If the BNP had 100 votes in an election and UKIP had 1000, and then the BNP vote went down by 50% with every single one of those votes going to UKIP - even if every single BNP voter was a knuck...no...not going to use that term...but even if every one of those 50 former BNP voters was a racist thug, it wouldn't necessarily mean that UKIP were full of racist thugs...because they would still be predominantly non-BNP voters.
Remember - in terms of votes cast, the BNP were no where near as popular as UKIP. So just because former BNP voters may have switched allegiances to UKIP doesn't necessarily reflect badly on UKIP.
Unless it openly started supporting racist policies.
sp, //just because former BNP voters may have switched allegiances to UKIP doesn't necessarily reflect badly on UKIP. //
People who you, and possibly the majority of the population, consider to be filth (your word) are alleged to have switched their allegiance to Ukip? I’d say that reflects badly on Ukip. I doubt any political party would be happy to be tarred with that reputation.
People who you, and possibly the majority of the population, consider to be filth (your word) are alleged to have switched their allegiance to Ukip? I’d say that reflects badly on Ukip. I doubt any political party would be happy to be tarred with that reputation.
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