Was Hitler Good At Public Speaking?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/ukip/11024182/Ukip-MEP-Hitlers-powers-of-public-speaking-are-an-inspiration.html

Strange that this hasn't been entered up for ridicule, by the anti-UKIP brigade?

[sp1814]

AOG

Would it be the same reason why you won't accept criticism of Hitler?

[emmie]

Hitler got to be Chancellor because he got rid of the opposition.

[mikey4444]

If any party is invoking Hitler as an example of effective public speaking, its far from a silly non-story Orderlimit.

If the Labour party was doing it, there would be an outrage, but as its UKIP, most people take it in their stride, as just another faux pas by a Party that has made an art form out putting its feet in its mouth. Just like London buses, there will be another one along in a minute.

[anotheoldgit]

Orderlimit

/// Another silly non-story and the usual silly off topic rants about
nothing. ///

What such as this one that you posted?

*** HITLER YOUTH TWEET LABOUR CANDIDATE RESIGNS ***

17:25 Tue 01st Jul 2014

[sp1814]

mikey4444

Funny you should mention London buses.

Whenever I think of UKIP, I always image Farage driving a bus which is full of people wearing those little beanie hats with propellors on the top.

Like...

http://galleryplus.ebayimg.com/ws/web/230722434176_1_0_1/1000x1000.jpg

[mikey4444]

Farage could never drive a London bus...you can't smoke on the buses now, unlike in Reg Varneys days !

[emmie]

you may not like him but he is more a man of the people than Ed M or Cameron will ever be

[in a mo]

His grasp of the English language wasn't up to much !

[sp1814]

I don't want my leader to be 'a man of the people'.

I want my leader to be a statesman.

I encounter 'men of the people' all the time. They're not that great.

[mikey4444]

A Man of the People ...whatever does that mean emmie ?

[Zacs-Master]

Wait till Boris is PM. Then you will see oratory skills in evidence.

[emmie]

Cameron doesn't appeal to many, they consider him a posh eton bloke and milliband as a weirdo.

[mikey4444]

Perhaps she meant Reg Varney SP !

[Kromovaracun]

When I was 14, I had roughly the same opinion as this guy. I attempted to put my theory into practice when I adopted the rhetorical style of Hitler in a homework assignment. It was a speech about flytipping.

In those excruciating few minutes, I learned the hard way that Hitler's style of oratory may well have been effective for his time, but has been eclipsed by more subtle modes of communication for a very, very good reason.

[mikey4444]

Zacs...I will agree with you there but think of all those whirr, whirr, whirrs and Wharr, wharr, wharrs !

[jno]

separating art from artist is always awkward. Refuse to listen to Wagner because he was anti-semitic? Refuse to look at a Caravaggio painting because he was a murderous thug? Refuse to watch a Riefenstahl film because she was a Nazi?

In fact, Riefenstahl's films of the Olympics is imitated all the time, every time a camera glides over an athlete's body: she was pretty much the first one to do that. Was that a "Nazi" film technique, though? Quite possibly: admiration of "muscle", of power, of strength - especially the strength of individuals rather than the masses - is more a rightwing thing than leftwing.

As for Hitler: I'm with the speaker on this. If his oratorical techniques worked, as they surely did, study them and see if you can adopt them. Learning from the best in the field is always a good idea. You're not obliged to use these skills to the same ends.

[anotheoldgit]

emmie

/// Hitler got to be Chancellor because he got rid of the opposition. ///

No he won over the opposition.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/schools/gcsebitesize/history/tch_wjec/germany19291947/1hitlerchancellor3.shtml

[jno]

Kromovaracun, I think that depends on your topic and your audience. Preparing a stadium audience for war just isn't the same as telling a roomful of classmates (or whoever) about flytipping; nor would Hitler have adopted the same approach.

[Kromovaracun]

Yes, believe me, jno, I am well aware of how inappropriate it was for that situation :P

[mikey4444]

He "won over the opposition" ?

Tell that to Gregor Strasser :::

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_of_the_Long_Knives

Not much winning over there AOG !