Prime Ministers On Postage Stamps

[grumpy01]

Have just read that Royal Mail are issuing eight stamps containing the faces of British Prime Ministers.Winston Churchill,Gladstone, Margaret Thatcher and Clement Attlee are there but no sign of teflon Tony,he must be gutted.

[boxtops]

I'd have taken great pleasure in sticking TB on an envelope, and obliterating his grinning face with the franking machine.

[mikey4444]

Ooooh boxy...a bit dramatic coming from you !

[mikey4444]

As nobody else is going to defend TB, and I am not his biggest fan by any measure, he did win 3 consecutive Elections for the Labour Party and may have gone on to win a third, if he had not stepped aside for Gordon.

[retrocop]

Yes and who voted him in to win 3 elections after he opened the flood gates of immigrationj and nigh on overwhelmed this countries infrastructure?

[retrocop]

Oh and of course,mikey,he is'nt a war criminal is he? Yet.Very selective are'nt you in that direction?

[mikey4444]

No, he is not a war criminal, and millions of people voted for him in 1997
(13,518,167), in 2001 (10,724,953) and again in 2005 (9,552,436). You might not have but enough people did !

[retrocop]

You might well be good at number crunching mikey.We all know the old saying about statistics and lamp posts etc.But I say again.You give numbers of the electorate who voted that money grubbing shister in three times but those numbers don't show the ethnicity do they.That might give an indication of who and why he was elected.
If Blair's image was shown on a Royal Mail stamp it would be the final nail in the coffin of Royal Mail.He would demand 50% royalties on each stamp sold and quickly bankrupt it like he nearly ruined great Britain.

[Gromit]

retrocop

Pretty certain that we do not have 13,518,167 immigrants in the UK.

The Conservative also fielded ethnic minority candidates, and got votes from them too.

[retrocop]

The Tories do not open the flood gates to immigrants and expect their votes in gratitude though.

[DTCwordfan]

With the financial state of Britain that the combination of Labour ministers left the UK in, then they could put Brown and Blair's faces on the Postage Due stamps......

[mikey4444]

Retro...are you seriously suggesting that a large amount of all those millions of people that voted Labour in three consecutive Elections were immigrants ? That is plain daft !

I suggest you go away and re-think that point, as it is palpable nonsense. I and Gromit can't be the only ones on here today that think you are incorrect.

If you don't understand the simple facts of the election figures, why don't you say so instead of making a fool out of yourself.

[DTCwordfan]

Under Labour , just over three million immigrants came in to the UK. Let's assume half were under 18...so call it 1.5 million that would largely vote Labour in an election, take away 50% for those that don't vote, so lets say somewhere around half a million potential Labour votes....significant as a bloc but not nigh on 13 million.

[mikey4444]

Thanks DTC...simple arithmetic wins in the end !

So, having got the ludicrous suggestion that it was immigrants that put Labour and Blair into power three times, we are left with the inescapable conclusion that it must have been ordinary non-immigrant Labour voters that did it, and that was the point in my post of 10:07.

I don't expect to have many followers when I say that Blair was popular. But to hear some people think, he can't be given credit for anything whatsoever. Well, he got rid of Major and caused a succession of Tory MPs to fail miserable in the role of leader of the Tory party. And there is a strong indication that if he hadn't passed over the baton, he would have won a fourth time. Instead we got the truly awful Gordon Brown, the worst Labour PM in living memory.

[anotheoldgit]

Gromit

/// I cannot see Blair making it onto a stamp. History will not be kind and his legacy was two disastrous wars which we failed to win. ///

Yet you are supporting 'Boots on the Ground' in Iraq once again, do you believe that we can win this one?

[anotheoldgit]

mikey4444

Regardless of figures and who knows how many potential voters there is amongst them but Baroness Warsi thinks that the ethnic minority vote is important, and I am sure Labour does too,why else do they welcome them with open arms?

/// Former Conservative chairman Baroness Warsi says her party will not win the next election unless it does more to attract ethnic minority voters. ///

[retrocop]

I think we are leaving the post title here but since you wish to give Blair credit do you credit him with taking us into a war with Iraq under a web of lies and false premise.WMD my a***e.The capability of these WMD to reach Britain from Iraq.My a***.How many Iraqi civilians were killed by the joint bombing of Iraq because he fancied a regime change along with Bush.Look how Iraq stands now.Worse off than with Saddam and still more atrocities occuring.Do you give Blair credit for the loss of allied troops lives just to boost Blairs ego when he cosied up to Bush?You do the number crunching.How many innocent civilians died in Iraq in both Gulf wars? I would suggest a lot more than in Gaza recently yet you call Netanhayu a war criminal but you want to give some credit to Blair who you suggest is not.You would spout any tub thumping rubbish that says your precious Labour can't do wrong .

[mikey4444]

Retro...but I was right wasn't I, when I called your assertion that the three consecutive Labour victories were down to immigrants !

[mikey4444]

And will you PLEASE use the space bar between your sentences. It makes them scan properly and much easier to read and its a simple grammar item !

PLEASE ?

[Gromit]

AOG

// Yet you are supporting 'Boots on the Ground' in Iraq once again, do you believe that we can win this one? //

We have to try. ISIS are a different proposition and are very very dangerous. They need to be stopped.

The invasion of Iraq in 2003 was bonkers. Iraq had no al qaeda presence, and was not involved at all in 9/11. They were included in the war on terrorism because Saddam had plotted to kill Bush Senior.

[Svejk]

In Saddam's Iraq people smoked, drank, sung and danced. No fun for fundamentalists, though.