Yougov Back To Normal !

[mikey4444]

http://yougov.co.uk/news/2014/08/17/update-labour-lead-4/

dave's surge didn't last very long did it !

[Sqad]

Thank God for that........no mikey it didn't last for long.

Thanks for the update.........;-)

[sunny-dave]

I barely noticed any surge ...

dave :-()

[Sqad]

Pretty clear to me already........a Labour victory with a working majority at the next election.

[sunny-dave]

I still think (and will bang on at length about it, to anyone daft enough to ask) that Ms Cooper would romp home in a General Election ... she might need to lose her Balls first though ...

[Svejk]

roll on the 8th of May.

[mikey4444]

Morning Sqad and everybody !

I posted this today mainly because of all the fuss that was made a few days ago, when dave managed, at last, to be even with Labour. There was no indication that it would last, although to some people it was the equivalent to the Second Coming. It is looking increasingly that it will be as Sqad has indicated. Clever man that Sqad !

[anotheoldgit]

Wow a 4% lead at the moment, why don't you wait till next year to see if the majority want to see the total destruction of life in the UK as we know it.

And these Yougov postings of yours are all getting rather boring, it is like you announcing every time the clock strikes the hour.

[Peter Pedant]

AOG down boy ! grrrrrr !!

and how long will it be before we see a Marxist paradise , Mikey ?

[Peter Pedant]

we could better label this:

Mikey back to Normal ! or even

Mikey Cheers up !

[Gromit]

The Poll in todays Observer...

// Ukip have taken a shock six-percentage-point leap in the polls following confirmation that Nigel Farage is intending to stand in a Tory seat in Kent. An Opinium/Observer poll has Farage's party on 21%. It appears that Ukip has taken support from both the Tories and Labour.

Ed Miliband's party is down three points, leaving it on 32%, and the Conservatives are down four points to 28%. The Liberal Democrats have enjoyed a small rise of three points to 10%. //

UKIP just 7 points behind the Conservatives would be very bad news for Cameron getting a working majority - if it all wan't meaningless ***.

[anotheoldgit]

Who would wish to predict that if the Tories get into bed with UKIP, we would see another Tory coalition party in office.

Stranger things have happened look at the last time, Conservative/Lib Dems, who would have thought it?

Will it be Conservatives & UKIP or Labour & Lib Dems?

[Zacs-Master]

AOG, you might be right:
You can skin this cat however you want to. The fact remains that unless some variation on that theme is worked out for 2015, the Conservative Party will not govern Britain alone after those elections; it will probably be pushed into opposition as the Lib-Dems switch allegiance to Labour; if it does stay with the Lib-Dems it will alienate to distraction core Tory activists; and there will be no referendum on the European Union.
http://www.thecommentator.com/article/4030/polls_still_suggest_conservative_ukip_pact_key_for_2015

[Gromit]

// Stranger things have happened look at the last time, Conservative/Lib Dems, who would have thought it? //

I must admit that I was extremely surprised by that amalgamation. However, if I had known more of Cleggs past, then I wouldn't have been...

// Nick Clegg joined Cambridge University Conservative Association between 1986 and 1987.

After university, Clegg then worked for EU Trade Commissioner and senior Conservative Party member, Leon Brittan in his private office, as his speech writer and adviser. //

[mikey4444]

"got into bed with UKIP" How could that happen then AOG ?

Do you seriously think that the Tory Party would enter into a formal agreement, before next May to NOT stand in some seats, so that UKIP could win a few ? Because that is the only way that UKIP will get enough seats to enter a coalition. Palpable nonsense. dave is not daft.

[Zacs-Master]

And Farage has his roots in the Cons too of course.

[mikey4444]

The LibDems will get into bed with anyone, because they know its the only possible way that they can exercise any power whatsoever.

If the Monster Raving Loony Party were to get lots of seats, but not quite enough, Cleggie, or more probably his replacement, would be brown-nosing within days.

[Zacs-Master]

Mikey: A Con/UKIP alliance would mean UKIP withdraws candidates and actively campaigns for Conservatives; with the reverse applying in other marginals whereby Conservatives tell their supporters to vote UKIP. Is that likely? Depends how much DC wants to hold on to power.

[mikey4444]

Not very likely at all Zacs. Why would Farage agree to that ? We already have a Tory administration and it has shown no desire to achieve the only thing UKIP wants...a withdrawal from Europe. UKIP doesn't have any other policies. Farage has admitted that on numerous occasions. To quote him, "If UKIP can get Britain out of Europe, it will have done its job"

For UKIP to admit defeat now would be to undo all that they have achieved...not much of course, but they have trebled their showing in the Polls since 2010 and they haven't done that by being nice to the Tories, despite most of them being ex-Tories, including Farage.

Unless matters change dramatically, it will be as Sqad predicted at 08:15 this morning.

[ChillDoubt]

UKIP doesn't have any other policies. Farage has admitted that on numerous occasions.
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But after their astounding success in Europe, there was a promised renwewal of the UKIP manifesto.
According to this link, it'll be done next month, in, of all places Doncaster, in order to steal Miliband's thunder.
I say thunder, it seems to be more of a slow handclap of late!

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/may/26/nigel-farage-ukip-manifesto-doncaster-ed-miliband

As for the YouGov poll I'm more than a tad sceptical, given that the Lib Dems have supposedly had a bit of a surge. I mean, where was the poll taken? Sheffield?

[Gromit]

A pre election deal with UKIP would be suicide for the Conservatives. It would be more or less an admission that the parties are much the same. There are plenty who might stray into the Conservatives camp who would never vote UKIP in a million years.

The Conservatives' Strategists will have to give it some thought, but they will quickly conclude that such a scenario would lose them more votes than they would gain.