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Another Overdue Resignation
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Not sure why we have put up with him until December...can't see why he couldn't go this afternoon.
Not sure why we have put up with him until December...can't see why he couldn't go this afternoon.
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If they want a volunteer to physically throw him out on his behind, I can be in Yorkshire in less than 4 hours. Another *** disgrace.
But he is falling on his sword to protect others. What about all the Plods that were told that young underage girls were being raped by adult men, and then did nothing ? What about all the social workers that didn't stop the abuse going on ? Will we see mass resignations in Yorkshire over this ?
But I am not holding my breath...they will get away with it, just as all the others complicit in Saviles crimes have done.
But he is falling on his sword to protect others. What about all the Plods that were told that young underage girls were being raped by adult men, and then did nothing ? What about all the social workers that didn't stop the abuse going on ? Will we see mass resignations in Yorkshire over this ?
But I am not holding my breath...they will get away with it, just as all the others complicit in Saviles crimes have done.
I know Naomi, but this sort of thing makes me sick.
Children have been, and still are being raped and abused all over Britain, and every time one of these scandals gets so big and out of control that the Authorities have no choice but to actually get up off their behinds and do something at last, we get the same response. Nothing but hand-wringing and crocodile tears for a week or two after the Report is published and then a few token resignations. The men who did the abusing are only a few of the many people responsible. Others, by their omission and dereliction of duty allowed this appalling behaviour to go on unchecked for years, when it was staring them in the face, and they need to be held to account.
One resignation doesn't even touch the sides when it comes to justice for all those children.
Children have been, and still are being raped and abused all over Britain, and every time one of these scandals gets so big and out of control that the Authorities have no choice but to actually get up off their behinds and do something at last, we get the same response. Nothing but hand-wringing and crocodile tears for a week or two after the Report is published and then a few token resignations. The men who did the abusing are only a few of the many people responsible. Others, by their omission and dereliction of duty allowed this appalling behaviour to go on unchecked for years, when it was staring them in the face, and they need to be held to account.
One resignation doesn't even touch the sides when it comes to justice for all those children.
Ni Ni, // I know. Personally I don't think he should have been given the opportunity to resign - but he was. //
courts again
doing a Sharon Shoesmith who I think was justly fired, showed a/c to the current law that she obviously wasnt ( fairly fired )
and cleaned up £ 1/2 m
on the grounds that she would never work again in the sector she loved etc etc
courts again
doing a Sharon Shoesmith who I think was justly fired, showed a/c to the current law that she obviously wasnt ( fairly fired )
and cleaned up £ 1/2 m
on the grounds that she would never work again in the sector she loved etc etc
He should have been arrested years ago and put on trial but that, of course, is only wishful thinking, because the Irish Establishment were all at it, just as their British counterparts were. Look what happened concerning The Kincora Boys Home in NI ::::
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The scandal had so many "important" men involved in the abuse, that the security forces stopped the investigation, just like they did over Cyril Smith and the Elm Guest House.
Savile abused many children over nearly 60 years, maybe 1000's and has anybody been held to account since he died ?
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The scandal had so many "important" men involved in the abuse, that the security forces stopped the investigation, just like they did over Cyril Smith and the Elm Guest House.
Savile abused many children over nearly 60 years, maybe 1000's and has anybody been held to account since he died ?
I was gonna say they wont go
because they like their pay cheques
but I see I have said that before
Kincora - has been bubbling along.
Colin Wallace he of clockwork orange fame was involved in that.
Kincora abuse was well known at the time and I always thought it odd that the responsible authorities just said: well we arent investigating that!, and the 'victims' replied Oh OK then
Colin Wallace was unjustly deprived of his pension amongst lots of other odd very odd things
and then when he appealed and appealed
finally the appeals awards tribunal said - " we were asked if there was any abnormal and obviously unjust intervention in this case and now we think about it, some spooks ( MI5) did come round the back door and told us we shouldnt give him a pension and so we didnt " !!!!
I think that was a caldicott enquiry and there were gasps of disbelief all round
because they like their pay cheques
but I see I have said that before
Kincora - has been bubbling along.
Colin Wallace he of clockwork orange fame was involved in that.
Kincora abuse was well known at the time and I always thought it odd that the responsible authorities just said: well we arent investigating that!, and the 'victims' replied Oh OK then
Colin Wallace was unjustly deprived of his pension amongst lots of other odd very odd things
and then when he appealed and appealed
finally the appeals awards tribunal said - " we were asked if there was any abnormal and obviously unjust intervention in this case and now we think about it, some spooks ( MI5) did come round the back door and told us we shouldnt give him a pension and so we didnt " !!!!
I think that was a caldicott enquiry and there were gasps of disbelief all round
PP...when the issue of child sexual abuse is being discussed, can there be anybody in Britain that has any disbelief left ? Every time some person appears in the media, there used to be an audible intake of breath and shocked faces all round. But after Savile, I just don't think that any incredulity is appropriate.
I remember quite clearly what happened when the news first broke about Savile...what ! that nice man who raised all that money for charity, guilty of child sexual abuse going back nearly 60 years...Good Heavens ! It can't possibly be true. Some really ignorant people pop in a statement like " Well, he was never found guilty of anything was he ? "
But, to argue against myself for a moment, according to Simon Danzuk, there are still people in Rochdale that refuse to believe that Cyril Smith was guilty of appalling abuse of boys that went on for most of his adult life, as well as the widespread political corruption of the man. I have said this a few times already but I urge everybody to read " Smiler for the Camera...The Secret Life of Cyril Smith" by Danzuk. It will make your eyes water and is a good expose of the Great and the Good, explaining as it does the cover up of his crimes by the Establishment. Most of what Danzuks writes could apply to any of the other child abuse scandals in Britain today, including Rotherham.
I remember quite clearly what happened when the news first broke about Savile...what ! that nice man who raised all that money for charity, guilty of child sexual abuse going back nearly 60 years...Good Heavens ! It can't possibly be true. Some really ignorant people pop in a statement like " Well, he was never found guilty of anything was he ? "
But, to argue against myself for a moment, according to Simon Danzuk, there are still people in Rochdale that refuse to believe that Cyril Smith was guilty of appalling abuse of boys that went on for most of his adult life, as well as the widespread political corruption of the man. I have said this a few times already but I urge everybody to read " Smiler for the Camera...The Secret Life of Cyril Smith" by Danzuk. It will make your eyes water and is a good expose of the Great and the Good, explaining as it does the cover up of his crimes by the Establishment. Most of what Danzuks writes could apply to any of the other child abuse scandals in Britain today, including Rotherham.
Aog - I dont somehow think that the people we think should be falling on their swords have any conception of how more expensive it would be for them to stay and incur the cost of being chucked out
Long sentence for you, but that means - the guilty ones care only for their own pay cheques
Milkey ( as AOG calls you ) : did you see the Select Committee shoeing the various Rotherham miscreants this afternoon ?
'what you are saying' Keith Vaz intoned,' we find incredible.
= you are a damned liar Chief Constable
They are making them take oaths before their testimony because presumably they are tired of being lied to
The Times is full of details today of meetings these people say they never had. One victim said of a minuted meeting - he looked shocked but didnt do anything
Long sentence for you, but that means - the guilty ones care only for their own pay cheques
Milkey ( as AOG calls you ) : did you see the Select Committee shoeing the various Rotherham miscreants this afternoon ?
'what you are saying' Keith Vaz intoned,' we find incredible.
= you are a damned liar Chief Constable
They are making them take oaths before their testimony because presumably they are tired of being lied to
The Times is full of details today of meetings these people say they never had. One victim said of a minuted meeting - he looked shocked but didnt do anything
Here is the link to todays Committee hearings PP.
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Wright, on the evidence of his performance before the Committee today, should never have been considered for the post of PCC, let alone still be in post tonight. He is a disgrace, nothing more or less.
I have followed these Commons Select Committees very carefully for the last couple of years, with great interest. They have been on all sorts of issues, not just child sexual abuse and I have always been very impressed by them and especially their Chairpersons.
But today, this Committee has excelled itself, and Keith Vaz in particular. I can't recall any Chair being quite so uncompromising in its criticism of someone called before them as he has been with Wright today. Wright lied and lied consistently.
I have been accused on AB this evening of not understanding politics, by someone who has nothing much to say about anything important. But, in my judgement, I think we can see Wright formally resigning from his position as PCC tomorrow morning. Under the circumstances, nothing else would be appropriate or acceptable. If he does not do so, then I would expect everybody associated with his post as PCC, including his own staff to no longer agree to have anything to do with him.
And the two Policemen who also appeared today, should seriously consider their positions as well. They are a disgrace as well.
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Wright, on the evidence of his performance before the Committee today, should never have been considered for the post of PCC, let alone still be in post tonight. He is a disgrace, nothing more or less.
I have followed these Commons Select Committees very carefully for the last couple of years, with great interest. They have been on all sorts of issues, not just child sexual abuse and I have always been very impressed by them and especially their Chairpersons.
But today, this Committee has excelled itself, and Keith Vaz in particular. I can't recall any Chair being quite so uncompromising in its criticism of someone called before them as he has been with Wright today. Wright lied and lied consistently.
I have been accused on AB this evening of not understanding politics, by someone who has nothing much to say about anything important. But, in my judgement, I think we can see Wright formally resigning from his position as PCC tomorrow morning. Under the circumstances, nothing else would be appropriate or acceptable. If he does not do so, then I would expect everybody associated with his post as PCC, including his own staff to no longer agree to have anything to do with him.
And the two Policemen who also appeared today, should seriously consider their positions as well. They are a disgrace as well.
i sat there with my mouth open
I wondered why they had made them take oaths
and then whooped when they came out with strings of lies
The PCC shaun thingey said he was the man for the job
and recollect that he was elected
so i think will be staying
I would have thought a special act of parliament to unseat him would be looked on as 'unfair' - looked on like an act of attainder whcih hasnt been used for around 400 y ( on the grounds there was no way the accused to defend himself)
I wondered why they had made them take oaths
and then whooped when they came out with strings of lies
The PCC shaun thingey said he was the man for the job
and recollect that he was elected
so i think will be staying
I would have thought a special act of parliament to unseat him would be looked on as 'unfair' - looked on like an act of attainder whcih hasnt been used for around 400 y ( on the grounds there was no way the accused to defend himself)
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