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Brown "promises" To Powers Will Be Delivered ?
I'm not sure if I have this right or not. Gordon Brown is no longer in power. He is just like any other Scottish MP. So how exactly is he able to "promise" anything ? dave is on the only one who can make promises and have the wherewithal to bring them about...well at least until next May of course.
So why is so much been staked on Browns promise ?
So why is so much been staked on Browns promise ?
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//Brown didn't promise anything;// He did. He promised that the promises made "will be delivered". http:// www. theguardian. com/ politics/ 2014/ sep/ 20/ gordon- brown- scotland- yes- no- unite- common- future
08:29 Sun 21st Sep 2014
Because the former Labour leader, who remains an MP, said that a resolution for a new Scotland Act signed by the three party leaders and himself after Thursday's vote would be placed in the House of Commons on Monday.
"We have set down a timetable that is absolutely clear. That a command paper will be published by the end of October, that the heads of agreement between the parties and further devolution will come in November and that the draft legislation, the laws that will form the Scotland Bill and eventually the Scotland Act, will be ready by the end of January," he said.
"We have set down a timetable that is absolutely clear. That a command paper will be published by the end of October, that the heads of agreement between the parties and further devolution will come in November and that the draft legislation, the laws that will form the Scotland Bill and eventually the Scotland Act, will be ready by the end of January," he said.
It won't happen! By the time the Scots realise this, there will enough English planted in Scotland to stop any future independence vote. Alex and Nicola knew it would have be now or never, and have been badly let down by the voters who believed what the dark forces from London were telling them. A nation once again sold into slavery!
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Unfortunately, because of the pernicious influence of party politics, Mr Brown may well be able to deliver on his promises.
All three main party leaders (and the LibDems are still a "main" party, at least until next May) have agreed to deliver on the promises, made in haste and in panic, to provide further goodies for our friends north of the border (and it now seems the main poll which promoted much of their panic was flawed). The Whips will be out in force and the MPs (even the English ones) will have no doubt towards whom their loyalties lie, and it will not be towards the people who elected them to their exalted positions.
The continual and increasing disregard for the majority of the UK's population in this matter is an utter disgrace. There needs to be an urgent review of the entire ridiculous devolution project and powers should be restored to the UK government to enable it to govern the UK - the entire UK - in a consistent, fair and non-discriminatory manner.
All three main party leaders (and the LibDems are still a "main" party, at least until next May) have agreed to deliver on the promises, made in haste and in panic, to provide further goodies for our friends north of the border (and it now seems the main poll which promoted much of their panic was flawed). The Whips will be out in force and the MPs (even the English ones) will have no doubt towards whom their loyalties lie, and it will not be towards the people who elected them to their exalted positions.
The continual and increasing disregard for the majority of the UK's population in this matter is an utter disgrace. There needs to be an urgent review of the entire ridiculous devolution project and powers should be restored to the UK government to enable it to govern the UK - the entire UK - in a consistent, fair and non-discriminatory manner.
Glad you were, ludwig.
I made that assumption because I thought, at the time, that there would be the usual split in the H of C and that a few "Honourable" members might just vote in the best interests of their constituents. However, it has become clear in the last few days that 90% of the Commons will be under instructions to toe the party line as all the leaders speak with one tongue.
Quite why this should be is completely beyond me. I cannot understand why so much benefit should be given to less than 10% of the UK population
especially as this is likely to alienate a large proportion of the electorate. But this is where yougmaf's contention that UKIP may have a part to play in this comes into its own. in the same way that UK voters who want to see the UK out of the EU have effectively nobody (except UKIP) to vote for, neither have they on tjis issue. Those wishing to see devolved powers for Scotland restrained or even reduced also have nobody (except possibly UKIP) to represent their interests. There is a huge gap in democracy for 90% of the electorate. They are being forced to subsidise the other 10% to a degree which allows them to enjoy benefits which they themselves are not afforded.
Something has to give.
I made that assumption because I thought, at the time, that there would be the usual split in the H of C and that a few "Honourable" members might just vote in the best interests of their constituents. However, it has become clear in the last few days that 90% of the Commons will be under instructions to toe the party line as all the leaders speak with one tongue.
Quite why this should be is completely beyond me. I cannot understand why so much benefit should be given to less than 10% of the UK population
especially as this is likely to alienate a large proportion of the electorate. But this is where yougmaf's contention that UKIP may have a part to play in this comes into its own. in the same way that UK voters who want to see the UK out of the EU have effectively nobody (except UKIP) to vote for, neither have they on tjis issue. Those wishing to see devolved powers for Scotland restrained or even reduced also have nobody (except possibly UKIP) to represent their interests. There is a huge gap in democracy for 90% of the electorate. They are being forced to subsidise the other 10% to a degree which allows them to enjoy benefits which they themselves are not afforded.
Something has to give.
Brown didn't promise anything; he was just the messenger used by the three leaders. If you click
http:// i4.dail yrecord .co.uk/ incomin g/artic le42654 80.ece/ alterna tes/s61 5b/1.jp g
you will find a picture of the front page of the Scottish newspaper, the Daily Record, dated 16th September. It shows the letter and the signatures of the three main Westminster party leaders. THEY were, quite manifestly, the ones making the promise.
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you will find a picture of the front page of the Scottish newspaper, the Daily Record, dated 16th September. It shows the letter and the signatures of the three main Westminster party leaders. THEY were, quite manifestly, the ones making the promise.
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