More Wishful Thinking From Mr Farage !

[mikey4444]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-29368838

How are UKIP going to lower income tax, without any MP's in Westminster ?

[ChillDoubt]

LOL @ baz.....

[naomi24]

Mikey, //I heard Farage being interviewed this morning on the Today Program, and he was asked which way he would be voting today in Parliament, if he was actually there, which he isn't ! This man would go to the opening of a paper bag.//

I’m shocked! Are you really comparing an invitation to an interview on the Today programme to something as mundane as attending the opening a paper bag! Would you really expect him to turn a BBC interview down? Sounds like sour grapes to me. How did he answer the question anyway?

[Khandro]

This time last year the UKIP conference was sabotaged by the odious Michael Crick and Channel 4 news in general. Let us see how they deal with it now.

[Zacs-Master]

Chill, if that's what you believe that's fine. I'll do a bit of digging and try to find some links which may alert you to UKIPs darker side which, for the moment, they have brushed under the carpet for the sake of appearing more mainstream.

Ah yes:
Christopher Monckton, their Scotland Leader and Head of Policy Unit invited the now-defunct British Freedom Party – an amalgamation of mostly breakaway BNP members led by a former Ukip candidate until January 2013 – to join Ukip: “I would very much like them to come back and join us and we stand together.” Ukip’s excuse for this lapse? Monckton had been away on a tour of the US and was not up to speed with current policy. More recently, however, Farage refused to vote to oppose moves for the European Union to fund the BNP.

At the end of the party’s spring conference the delegates assembled for their gala dinner, where they were entertained by a comedian called Paul Eastwood. Milking what the Telegraph’s Steve Swinford described as “rapturous applause”, Eastwood told the following jokes.
Referring to the Olympics, Eastwood said: “Poland did well. They took home bronze, silver, gold, lead, copper – anything they could get their hands on.”
“Team Somalia – they did well, didn’t they? They had to apologise. Didn’t realise sailing and shooting were two different events.”

[mikey4444]

Naomi...he said that he would vote against the motion. I didn't hear anymore as I threw a book at the radio in time.

[naomi24]

Oh my! He's really getting to you, isn't he Mikey.

[mikey4444]

Khandro...perhaps we are remembering a different event, as I recall the 2013 UKIP conference was effectively ruined by one Godfrey Bloom, and Farage's constant need to justify why he this buffoon was in the Party in the first place. Hoisted by their own petard it seemed to me.

[mikey4444]

No Naomi...he and his Party are a constant source of amusement, as most of the country agrees ::::

http://yougov.co.uk/news/2014/09/25/ukip-conference-most-fun-funny/

[Khandro]

zacs, Those jokes made me laugh, shouldn't I have? Lighten up old chap!

[ChillDoubt]

C'mon Zacs, you can do better than that! Where's your link?
Monckton was sacked by Farage last November. In fact, he spent far more time as a Tory than he did with UKIP. Now they're a serious party they won't have any shennanigans of that sort, nor should they.

[Zacs-Master]

Both examples are recent events. The shenanigans have been brushed under the carpet to make them appear more 'robust' including Farage distancing himself from them by sacking Monckton.

Khandro, I too would find them amusing in the pub but at a party conference for a party fighting to appear non racist? It's not exactly a 'lighten up' thread is it?

[ChillDoubt]

But mikey, as you've always said they're not a serious party/threat, why do you spend most of your time posting about them yet never about your supposed nearest rivals, the Tories?
They won't be in power, yet you're fixated with attacking Farage at every opportunity.
What is it you're so fearful of?

[ChillDoubt]

Khandro, I too would find them amusing in the pub but at a party conference for a party fighting to appear non racist?
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But they were effectively 'in the pub' because they were at their gala dinnner, NOT at conference.
In my experience, gala dinner is a by-word for pi$$ up and shindig.....a bit like being in the pub only dressed formally.

[Peter Pedant]

I have to say as I heard, feather beds for the veterans, lower tax for everyone, no further lies about the NHS....

how are they gonna pay for this all ?

Chris Monckton having been at uni with him I wouldnt have thought was a vote-winner. But then I was contemporary with Charles Clarke...

[Zacs-Master]

As your post seems to be aimed at me too (I don't want to be accused of putting words into anyone's mouth, again) the people who are critical of Farage merely wish to expose his thin veneer of respectability and try to make those who would even consider voting for him realise what he and UKIP are all about.

[naomi24]

Mikey, so you threw a book at the radio in amusement? Of course you did. A little disingenuous there I think. ;o)

[Khandro]

mikey Godfrey Bloom's gaffe was only part 2 - the coup de grace, Crick waited for Nigel Farage with a film crew and just as he was entering the conference, button-holed him and started asking him absurd questions about his schoolboy politics as head boy, and his then admiration for Mrs T. He had previously made a disreputable film covering his schoolboy days and had interviewed a rather unpleasant bunch of Nigel's contemporaries, which was also shown on Ch.4 news

[jim360]

Assuming UKIP does start to pose a real challenge at the next Election beyond some headline-grabbing close second-place finishes, then I'd expect their political future to be broadly the same as the SDP's in the 80's -- exciting, but ultimately not particularly successful. Indeed, UKIP almost certainly won't even have the bright long-term prospects of the SDP's successor party as despite everything they remain essentially a one-policy party. Once that question has been settled one way or another they'll fade into relative insignificance.

[Zacs-Master]

Khandro, that's just what NF will have to deal with as a party leader. Remember T Blair being asked if he prayed by the BBC?

[mikey4444]

Chili ( 09:31)...Zcas has said it all here. I am not afraid of them at all, as they are not likely to be a threat next May in any way whatsoever. But they are currently providing the best entertainment on the conference circuit, and in the media and for that I am grateful !

But you are right....its either going to be a Labour win next year or a Tory win, and was ever thus. So naturally, as a Labour supporter, in the minority here on AB this morning, I would be concerned if dave was showing some improvement in the ratings. But he isn't yet and hasn't been since not long after the 2010 election. But he still a few months to overturn Labours lead and get ahead by a similar 6 points.

Its not over until the fat lady sings apparently, according to our Colonial cousins.