Rise Of The Far Right In Britain

[mikey4444]

Beware if you see any reference to a new Party called " Britain First" It is in effect a new Far-Right party, formed by ex-Members of the BNP ::

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Britain_First

It might look quite cuddly and very patriotic, with its images of the Queen, poppies and suchlike but its the same tired old band of Fascist thugs, for whom Asians are the new Jews. I have warned about the rise of the Far Right on AB before, especially in Europe but these Fascists are marching in Britain, not Berlin. We ignore these racist thugs at our peril.

[Orderlimit]

(OK, Mikey :), I do enjoy reading your post but can't respond in any detail most the time but I'm coming to a town near to you soon so we meet up on the racist BLACK mountains if you want, but no one can beat me up on the B-mountains or Breacons so watch out)

[andy-hughes]

Orderlimit - "I'm afraid some of your comments and rediculing of JW's could fall into the same caterogry as racism (hate incident) if reported to the police. It's not nice and a bit of a contradiction, sorry."

Ridiculing someone is not a 'hate crime', and one cannot be 'racist' against a religious sect - religion is a choice, ethnicity is not.

[mikey4444]

OL...now is it the "Black Mountain", or the "Black Mountains" that you would like to me meet up on ? Two different places, at least 30+ miles apart !

[Orderlimit]

Andy, i didnt say hate crime and i know it isnt racism (wish others would also look at the real meaning of racism)

[mikey4444]

Good Point Andy ! (14:07)

[andy-hughes]

AOG - "
andy-hughes

/// But the evidence does back up my view point - doesn't it? ///

In your opinion maybe, and everyone has the right to voice their opinion."

No - that is not a matter of my opinion - it is a matter of fact.

My opinion - people starting a post with either 'So...' or 'So you think ...' is going to be followed either with a complete contradiction of what the original post said, or it is going to be something that the original post did not say at all.

Fact - that is exactly what you did with your post commencing 'So you think ...'.

[andy-hughes]

Orderlimit - "Andy, i didnt say hate crime ..."

Indeed you didn't - my sincere apologies.

[mikey4444]

Blackadder ( 14:03) ...I'm not too sure, although other people have referred to Goodlife as a she. I am most certainly a he though, just in case there was any doubt !

[anotheoldgit]

mikey4444

/// There is a common factor running through all these cases of paedophilia and child abuse, and it isn't religion or race......its men. ///

And here was you just a few minutes ago accusing me of generalising all Muslims.

Not all cases of paedophilia are committed by men, it is just more widely reported.

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2009/oct/04/uk-female-child-sex-offenders

[mikey4444]

Lets all calm down here a bit please ! While few agree that the Far Right is a the big threat that I do, almost all of us think the "Britain First" and the BNP are a lot of knobheads....don't we ?...please ?

[Orderlimit]

mikey, I usually go from Talybont res to Llandovery. but i Visit Ammaford for the day then stay regularly at Newcastle Emlyn for a while (really full of racist there)

[andy-hughes]

mikey - "While few agree that the Far Right is a the big threat that I do, almost all of us think the "Britain First" and the BNP are a lot of knobheads....don't we ?...please ?"

I do!

[mikey4444]

AOG...of course some padophilia is committed by women but the vast majority is committed by men. To suggest otherwise is just mischievous. Don't drop any more red herrings into this debate...please !

[mikey4444]

Thansk Andy...first of many I hope this afternoon.

Keep this pot boiling please...I have to go to collect my medicines from the Chemist before 15:00...these days I need a large long-life Morrisons carrier bag to bring them all home !

[Orderlimit]

Mikey, I knew you had run out of your meds when i saw your OP

[Sipowicz]

Be thankful it's a "long life" bag!

[andy-hughes]

mikey - "AOG...of course some padophilia is committed by women but the vast majority is committed by men. To suggest otherwise is just mischievous. Don't drop any more red herrings into this debate...please !"

As regulars on the AB will know, AOG and I diagreeing and arguing is about as likely as the sun rising tomorrow, but i do feel on this occasion I have to speak up on his defence -

from my experience, AOG's factual input into any thread is always valid, and I have never known him to chuck in any red herrings - and I honestly do not feel he is doing so now.

I think his referal to female paedophilia is the in the interest of factual balance, rather than being rooted in deliberate mischief-making.

[anotheoldgit]

andy-hughes

My opinion - people starting a post with either 'So...' or 'So you think ...' is going to be followed either with a complete contradiction of what the original post said, or it is going to be something that the original post did not say at all.Fact - that is exactly what you did with your post commencing 'So you think ...'.

Fact - that is exactly what you did with your post commencing 'So you think ...'.

Not at all conclusive

My opinion - that fellow is going to fall down that hole when he goes round the corner.

That man did fall down the hole when he went round the corner, yes it was true that is what happened, but not because of your opinion.

[andy-hughes]

AOg - well argued - I concede the point.

[Svejk]

lol@orderlimit & sipowicz
apropos of nothing, I worked on Talybont res.