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Why Does This Sort Of Thing Happen Over And Over Again, When A Certain Community Doesn't Agree With A Lawful Decision?
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/I wonder if they had only black police officers, policing the black communities/
in places like Ferguson, Missouri it would be reasonable for a significant number of the Sheriff's department were afro american
from what i can gather the vast majority if not all of them - are white.
that sort of imbalance is a social failure and a legacy of the not so distant past when the local police were stalwarts of the Ku Klux Klan.
in places like Ferguson, Missouri it would be reasonable for a significant number of the Sheriff's department were afro american
from what i can gather the vast majority if not all of them - are white.
that sort of imbalance is a social failure and a legacy of the not so distant past when the local police were stalwarts of the Ku Klux Klan.
AOG
When you take race out of the equation, or rather the perception of racism, then you would get no protests (see police forces in the West Indies, Africa etc).
However, the Southern states of the US have racism in their soil...in their DNA. I'm afraid it's just too easy for us to sit here and say, "Oh forget everything from the past 200 years - start again from afresh" to both black and white citizens the Deep South.
When you take race out of the equation, or rather the perception of racism, then you would get no protests (see police forces in the West Indies, Africa etc).
However, the Southern states of the US have racism in their soil...in their DNA. I'm afraid it's just too easy for us to sit here and say, "Oh forget everything from the past 200 years - start again from afresh" to both black and white citizens the Deep South.
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/who sooner or later would have been in prison or shot anyway./
dive
well we'll never know will we?
perhaps you've been watching 'Minority Report' too much
and perhaps white police officers in the southern states are too frightened of black male youths
maybe they're frightened someone has found out their daddy once led a lynch mob
dive
well we'll never know will we?
perhaps you've been watching 'Minority Report' too much
and perhaps white police officers in the southern states are too frightened of black male youths
maybe they're frightened someone has found out their daddy once led a lynch mob
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divebuddy
You asked:
"Let's see, have I got this right. If a white police officer shoots a black criminal, then it's perfectly OK as part of a protest for other black people to shoot black shop keepers while looting. Get real, boys."
Who has suggested that?
Was it in Fox News?
Have you got a link?
I'm not being sarcastic - I'm genuinely surprised that anyone would be crass enough to suggest this.
You asked:
"Let's see, have I got this right. If a white police officer shoots a black criminal, then it's perfectly OK as part of a protest for other black people to shoot black shop keepers while looting. Get real, boys."
Who has suggested that?
Was it in Fox News?
Have you got a link?
I'm not being sarcastic - I'm genuinely surprised that anyone would be crass enough to suggest this.
I disagree -- it is twisting. There is a whole world of difference between "natural" (or perhaps "expected" would be a better choice of word) and "OK". We shouldn't be surprised by these riots, partly because there are always opportunist louts looking for any excuse to go berserk, and partly because there is a clear sense of "us v. them" in the US between (mainly white) police and the Black communities they are policing. We should be appalled by these riots all the same. The solution, if there is one, comes from understanding the root cause. I should say, the root causes, because we can never do away with riots entirely, and I mentioned examples that show people can indeed riot almost for the sake of it. Such behaviour will never really go away. But the second root cause, deep-seated enmity between police and black people, requires a serious change of attitudes on both sides.
I expect that things are only made worse by the easy introduction of guns, but it's hard to see that argument going anywhere in the US. Still, if you insist on throwing such a lethal weapon into all such tense situations, small wonder that people end up killed with appalling regularity. In the US, in seven-year period up to 2012, about 400 people a year were killed by police; about 25% of these victims were black people killed by white cops, apparently. And, according to my source, the data is drawn from less than 5% of all US law enforcement agencies, so this figure is likely to be a gross underestimate of all police-caused fatalities.
It is a legitimate grievance, anyway, when people of your skin colour are disproportionately likely to be arrested, shot, killed, imprisoned. The response, rioting, is wholly unacceptable, but if you don't accept that the reasons partly behind the riots are legitimate then nothing will change. And things have to.
I expect that things are only made worse by the easy introduction of guns, but it's hard to see that argument going anywhere in the US. Still, if you insist on throwing such a lethal weapon into all such tense situations, small wonder that people end up killed with appalling regularity. In the US, in seven-year period up to 2012, about 400 people a year were killed by police; about 25% of these victims were black people killed by white cops, apparently. And, according to my source, the data is drawn from less than 5% of all US law enforcement agencies, so this figure is likely to be a gross underestimate of all police-caused fatalities.
It is a legitimate grievance, anyway, when people of your skin colour are disproportionately likely to be arrested, shot, killed, imprisoned. The response, rioting, is wholly unacceptable, but if you don't accept that the reasons partly behind the riots are legitimate then nothing will change. And things have to.
dive
/How they are only reacting like animals trapped in a cage, etc. etc. etc./
i mentioned people in a cage
why did you change that to /animals/?
Did you let your guard slip?
/arson, rioting, looting and murder rather undermines this noble argument./
No one is suggesting there is anything noble about the systematic abuse of people for hundreds of years or the anger and social instability that has caused
/How they are only reacting like animals trapped in a cage, etc. etc. etc./
i mentioned people in a cage
why did you change that to /animals/?
Did you let your guard slip?
/arson, rioting, looting and murder rather undermines this noble argument./
No one is suggesting there is anything noble about the systematic abuse of people for hundreds of years or the anger and social instability that has caused
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