Should Turkey Join The Eu?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2867835/I-d-welcome-Turkey-EU-says-PM-Cameron-says-remains-long-standing-goal-country-join-despite-drive-reduce-net-migration.html

Well Cameron thinks so, even after promising to reduce net migration to the UK, plus also promising us a referendum on opting out of the EU.

[EDDIE51]

Turkey has been getting prepared for EU membership for years now. It will be a member within 10 years at most. Nothing we can do about it the EU has already decided to prepare it for membership.

[Baldric]

Just what we need, more Kebab Shops!

[janbee]

No. Never, but it looks like it's going to happen anyway whether we want it or not. We should certainly get out if the EU though. Don't believe a word Cammy says about giving us a straight in/out yes/no referendum. It will NEVER happen. Cammy speak with forked tongue !

[Old_Geezer]

I've said it before and I'm willing to say it again, sure, they can take the UK's spot.

[anotheoldgit]

Should make it even more easy for some of our young Muslims to go off and then return from their terrorist training holidays.

[mikey4444]

Can I correct the idea that Turkey is a "Muslim" country ::::From wiki :::

"Turkey is a democratic, secular, unitary, constitutional republic with a diverse cultural heritage"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkey

What business is it ours what religion a fellow Member of the EU chooses to follow ?

[Old_Geezer]

It is trying to be. I'm unsure what percentage of the Turkish population are behind that. As far as I am aware it is the dominant religion there. Not that the dominant religion should be any entry criteria.

[jno]

Turks are mostly Muslim, their country is emphatically not, thanks to Ataturk. The military have been known to step in if they think religious leaders are getting too much power.

If Turks can lay bricks, they are needed here

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-30390005

[dannyk13]

Yes, they should do a swap with us.

[retrocop]

mikey
The Wilkepedia link you provided goes on to say that " the vast majority of the population are Muslim" and another topic below this thread states that , maybe , 90% are muslim so I think it would be correct to say Turkey is a Muslim country. Our local Turkish (yes they are already here in the UK) supermarket does not sell pork,alcohol and the Turkish female staff wear Nihads so I assume they are not R.C.

[Baldric]

///What business is it ours what religion a "fellow Member of the EU" chooses to follow?///

Mikey seems to know something we don't!

[ChillDoubt]

I say let them join, they can take our place when we come to our senses and bug out!

[retrocop]

I wonder what the Greeks feel about this proposal ? :-)

[mushroom25]

doesn't look like the Cyprus question will be answered any time soon - without that, turkey's membership remains their dream.

[Brenden]

No, 99per cent of turkey lies in Asia.

[Old_Geezer]

Interesting link jno, foreign workers being paid more than the going rate for the UK. Fairly rare I'd suspect. Mind you, if industry picked up their responsibility to train sufficient home grown individuals for the trades they need, instead of expecting them to just be there to hire, they'd not need to claim they "have" to overpay foreign workers to do the job instead.

[VHG]

>>>What business is it ours what religion a fellow Member of the EU chooses to follow ?

Because some of the biggest problems this country has faced in the last few years has been from Muslims.

Or have you forgotten the 7th July 2005 bombs set off in London. Because I am sure the people who had friends and relatives killed have not forgotten it, nor those who had limbs blown off in the bombs.

And we have now got UK Muslims going off to fight in Syria and other countries, Muslims cutting the head off a soldier, and now we have threats against the police.

And these are the terrorist activities, let alone all the other problems of Muslims wanting to set up a Muslim "state" in this country, Imams, Sharia law etc etc

I believe letting in so many Muslims has been one of the biggest mistakes this country has made in the last 20 years and we will live to regret it.

The last thing we need is a basically Muslim country joining the EU.

ps. If you go back into history Christians and Muslims have never got on: the Crusades, us fighting in Afghanistan in the last century.

In fact in the first world war the Germans tried to get Muslim countries rise up against the UK so we would have to go an fight out of Europe to protect our Empire and have less soldiers in Europe to fight against them.

Sadly we are heading for a religious civil war in this country in the future, and we have already seen some of the fighting between different group on the streets already.

[anotheoldgit]

Here are some reasons we should not let Turkey in.

http://www.eurfreedom.org/content/why-turkey-should-not-join-eu

And here are Cameron's reasons we should

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1297906/Turkey-join-EU-says-Cameron-Those-playing-fears-Islam.html

What is the matter with this man, shouldn't he ask the British people what their thoughts are, before jumping to what the US wants, what's it got to do with them any way who joins the EU?

[Old_Geezer]

Interesting.

Argument 1 is irrelevant. For example the Eurovision song contest allows in countries from outside Europe. What’s in a name. It was described as a trading block, and is obviously an attempt to be a union. I don’t think the name defines much.

Argument 2 is something that needs to be put right and is a known stumbling block for now.

Argument 3 is laughable given the other poorer countries that have already been let in to be funded by the better off ones.

Argument 4 needs to be proven even if considered a reason. I think the drive toward more secular style would have occurred anyway as the benefits are clear.

Argument 5, see argument 3.

Argument 6 seems weak to me. And is a denial of a reason to get entry, not a reason not to.