How Can This Really Be What Allah Intends?

[ToraToraTora]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-30507836
Surely, even the warped version if Islam that the Taliban subscribe to cannot justify the Peshawar masacre. Is there someone out there who can explain the thinking behind this? I am totally mystified.

[hc4361]

No, it isn't.

Al Quran surah 5.

Whoever saves a life it is as if that person has saved all of humankind.
Whoever kills a person it is as if that person killed all of humankind.

(This is a simple translation but the meaning is clear.)

[ToraToraTora]

"Whoever kills a person it is as if that person killed all of humankind. " - ok but given the amount of murder the ROP carries out there must surely be an "except......" clause somewhere.

[trt]

Tora,
I worked in Abu Dhabi for 11 years, our cook had an English version of the Koran which he lent me.

I only read some of it, but it was really scary, and there was things like, ''if you didn't attend Friday prayers more than twice, Allah would burn your house down, with your family inside''!

[Old_Geezer]

I doubt it is religion related. It is an act of aggression against the authorities, particularly the military, in an attempt to feel powerful and demoralise the troops. It's a power play; an act of terrorism for it's own sake.

[frugalfred]

I heard on one medium that it was a "revenge attack" for that Malala girl getting a Nobel Peace Prize.

[hc4361]

The Bible is also scary in parts:

And immediately the angel of the Lord smote him, because he gave not God the glory: and he was eaten of worms, and gave up the ghost.
Acts 12:23

[jackthehat]

The Taliban consider themselves to be good and righteous Muslims. Therefore whatever they do, because it is sanctioned by Allah, in the Koran, *must* be permissible/acceptable.
They target 'the enemies of Islam' and expect to get their reward in heaven.

[mikey4444]

OG has it right here. Religion isn't the driving force behind this,.....its power politics in its rawest form. These people are extremists and extremists don't use cogent, rational arguments.

[ToraToraTora]

but it's not sanctioned in the koran is it jack.

[jackthehat]

What?
Killing the enemies of Islam?
I think you'll find that to be a pretty hefty part of the book.......

[hc4361]

Murdering innocent Muslim children is not sanctioned in the Koran.

[Peter Pedant]

well it is what aller intends because we know from the Koran that the whole of the world order and events is ordained by God.

The taliban - and the chief is on the run not surprisingly - says it was done because the Pak Army was bombing their villages...

[jackthehat]

Ah.....but these Taliban 'soldiers' have already decided that the children are *not* innocent (sins of the fathers and all that).....and neither were any of the teachers.

[tamborine]

Pakistanis are not enemies of islam as theyre muslim.

[douglas9401]

It must be difficult to concentrate on what's being said to you in any attempt at reasonable debate or discussion when there's a constant 'allahu akhbar' playing on a loop in your head.

[Gromit]

Just like the Christians massacred many people in Africa and the Americas in the name of God, it isn't really about religion.

The grab for an Islamic State is about power, influence and money, nothing to do with Islam.

Most of the victims are fellow islamists. They may claim they are dying for Allah, but really they are trying to steal land and many people will become wealthy if they succeed.

[jackthehat]

Tambo - If that were true, there would never be any sort of internal conflict in *any* Muslim country.

[hc4361]

It is wrong to say Pakistanis are Muslim. It is true the majority are but there is approximately 2.5 million Christians in Pakistan and they have some beautiful churches.

Some Pakistanis are Hindu and the have temples.

[ludwig]

// OG has it right here. Religion isn't the driving force behind this,.....its power politics in its rawest form. //

Maybe religion's not the reason for the cynical leaders behind this sort of thing, but they have to have something to persuade the retards that go off and do the killing (and dying), that it's the right thing to be doing, and they couldn't do that without the religion.

[Peter Pedant]

hc it is surat 5 31

the rest of al-maidah is pretty dense