Paul Golding Britain First-Update

[THECORBYLOON]

http://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/News/Question1377568.html

As there was some debate a few months ago about whether Paul Golding was likely to be found guilty of harassment or wearing a political uniform or no, I thought folk might be interested to know he was found guilty of both.

http://m.essexchronicle.co.uk/Britain-leader-Paul-Golding-guilty/story-25808029-detail/story.html

[Orderlimit]

Seems a bit over the top but maybe there is more to it.

[jno]

I presume the notion of a political uniform dates back to the heady days of the Blackshirts. I don't know that it's particularly relevant now; but laws should be obeyed. The harassment seems much the more serious charge.

Thanks for that, anyway.

[vetuste_ennemi]

LOve "harass". Under the PC radar this:
http://www.eastlondonadvertiser.co.uk/news/politics/ken_livingstone_and_george_galloway_defend_tower_hamlets_mayor_lutfur_rahman_at_rally_1_3847972

[vetuste_ennemi]

Sorry that the video did not show the Livingstone instigation to intimidation and violence which preceded the Galloway harangue.

[mikey4444]

Golding is a nasty representative, of an even nastier political Party. It has a history of using violence and harassment in pursuit of its racist aims. So, no surprise.

But there is a lesson here for Mr Farage. From the wiki entry ::

In May 2014, Britain First announced that it would be deploying "hundreds of ex-British Forces" alongside "several armoured ex-army Land Rovers" to protect the UKIP leader Nigel Farage after he had been opposed on the street by supporters of Scottish independence. Whilst acknowledging that UKIP and Britain First were "rival" right-wing organisations, it stated that the two parties remain "patriots together" and as such it was willing to "put our men and our resources at UKIP's disposal".

Farage is best advised to look to his friends, if Golding counts himself amongst that number.

[Booldawg]

trumped up charges.

[mikey4444]

Booldawg....the Judge doesn't seem to agree ::::

""Finding him guilty on both charges, District Judge David Woollard said: "It was a political stunt which was designed to further the cause of the party and to generate the kind of material which is later placed on the Britain First website."

[Svejk]

They charged Nick Griffin with harassment in 2004. Because, and I know you'll laugh at this, he suggested there were gangs of Pakistani men raping young white girls in Rochdale. (or Rotherham)

[ichkeria]

I think the charges in 2004 related to a speech alleged to be an incitement to racial hatred. However many of the comments made during that speech seem mild by comparison to some of the stuff posted here.
So poor old Nick, eh?

[Svejk]

Don't know about anyone else, but I can't read half of each post here. Couldn't a mod or editor do something useful and fix it?

[naomi24]

//Farage is best advised to look to his friends, if Golding counts himself amongst that number.//

Golding is spouting hot air. It doesn’t follow that his friendship is reciprocated or welcome and it's quite wrong to imply that it is.

[anotheoldgit]

Typical PC justice that seems more and more rife these days.

Amazing a person has the full force of the law rained down on him, his crimes?

He tried to approach a known terrorist, who happened to had the protection of the law not to be named, while he dared to wear a political uniform, ie a bomber jacket that happens to have a badge on, I wonder if it had been okay if it happened to have carried a Red Star?

Wouldn't we do better in this country if we took the real criminals to court very much sooner, i.e. FGM perpetrators (to date not one conviction), child molesters in high places, and Pakistani child abusers who are known to be still walking free.

[ichkeria]

Yes doubtless there are a lot of people who deserve to be brought to justice as you say but that doesn't mean you allow people like Golding to go around threatening people The two aren't mutually exclusive

[andy-hughes]

AOG - "Typical PC justice that seems more and more rife these days."

I think you'll find that there is no sub-section of 'PC' justice, there is justice, where people are subject to the law - as in in this case.

"Amazing a person has the full force of the law rained down on him, his crimes?"

See above.

"He tried to approach a known terrorist, who happened to had the protection of the law not to be named, while he dared to wear a political uniform, ie a bomber jacket that happens to have a badge on, I wonder if it had been okay if it happened to have carried a Red Star?"

This man broke the law on those two counts - the fact that you appear to excuse him because his target is a terrorist is not the issue, harassment is an offence, it's not mitigated by the perception of the target as being less protected under the law.

Your question about his badge is again answered - he contravened the law on the question of 'uniform', and was punished accordingly.

"Wouldn't we do better in this country if we took the real criminals to court very much sooner, i.e. FGM perpetrators (to date not one conviction), child molesters in high places, and Pakistani child abusers who are known to be still walking free."

As the previous poster agrees - the severity of other crimes does not provide mitigation in this case - it never does.

Mr Golding appears to be fairly typical of the right-wing agitators, he has too much time on his hands, and an over-developed sense of self-righteousness which sees him setting himself up as some sort of social judge and jury.

He and his kind are unwanted and ignored by the vast majority of the population - those who form political parties are similarly ignored - they should calm down and do something useful with all that time and energy they appear to have at their disposal.

[anotheoldgit]

andy-hughes

/// and an over-developed sense of self-righteousness which sees him setting himself up as some sort of social judge and jury. ///

And are there not many on this site who could also be so described?

[sp1814]

AOG

You wrote:

He tried to approach a known terrorist, who happened to had the protection of the law not to be named

He went to the wrong house.

Therefore it's understandable that his victim's name should be withheld.

[anotheoldgit]

sp1814

Did you read this?

*** Britain First leader Paul Golding was in court today due to his prosecution for exposing the home address of an Al Qaeda terrorist living in Essex. ***

*** This terrorist cannot be named due to the bail conditions that have been forced on Mr Golding. ***

Yes admittedly it was later reported that he went to the wrong house, the sister in law of the terrorist in fact, but at least he didn't torch the house as some might have done.

[andy-hughes]

AOG - "andy-hughes

/// and an over-developed sense of self-righteousness which sees him setting himself up as some sort of social judge and jury. ///

And are there not many on this site who could also be so described?"

Posting opinions and debating on a website is rather a far cry from setting yourself up to physically intimidate innocent people - wouldn't you agree?

[andy-hughes]

AOG - "Yes admittedly it was later reported that he went to the wrong house, the sister in law of the terrorist in fact, but at least he didn't torch the house as some might have done."

Some people are just not at all appreciative are they?

Look Mrs, I know a right-wing thug appeared at your door and frightened you but you should be grateful, he didn't burn your house down like some of the really nasty right-wing thugs we have barging about the country.

Why can't you just be grateful, instead of whingeing on ....

When you look at it like that AOG, your mitigation looks flimsier than ever.

[mikey4444]

Andy-hughes........its truly amazing that so many people should be prepared to queue up and not condemn this thug.