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A Bravado Racist Chant Maybe, But A Real Act Of Racism?
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Much has been said and reported about the Chelsea fans behaviour in France, mainly due to the Video obtained by the Guardian.
Well apart from the ridiculous chant from a football crowd, and many of us have become accustomed to these over the years, was it enough for calls for the perpetrators to answer to be banned and face the law?
As far as I could see from the video, the black man was walking along the platform, until he got to the open door of the carriage containing the football crowd.
Now what was said, perhaps we will never know, but instead of the black man trying to board the train was he actually trying to confront these football supporters in an aggressive way, and if he was isn't it obvious that they would try and push him away.
Yes we all know that the crowd were suppose to be shouting "We’re racist, we’re racist, and that’s the way we like it". (because the Guardian has told us that), but in the true football crowd tradition was this just to get back at their opponent.
I am in no way condoning an act of racism if that is what it was, but before you condemn me look at the video again.
Much has been said and reported about the Chelsea fans behaviour in France, mainly due to the Video obtained by the Guardian.
Well apart from the ridiculous chant from a football crowd, and many of us have become accustomed to these over the years, was it enough for calls for the perpetrators to answer to be banned and face the law?
As far as I could see from the video, the black man was walking along the platform, until he got to the open door of the carriage containing the football crowd.
Now what was said, perhaps we will never know, but instead of the black man trying to board the train was he actually trying to confront these football supporters in an aggressive way, and if he was isn't it obvious that they would try and push him away.
Yes we all know that the crowd were suppose to be shouting "We’re racist, we’re racist, and that’s the way we like it". (because the Guardian has told us that), but in the true football crowd tradition was this just to get back at their opponent.
I am in no way condoning an act of racism if that is what it was, but before you condemn me look at the video again.
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If one of this gang had punched someone and put them in hospital would had there been as much uproar? No, I dont think their would. Name calling is now a more serious offence than any violent attack it seems.
15:07 Thu 19th Feb 2015
Sounds like you are condoning it.
// the crowd were suppose to be shouting "We’re racist, we’re racist, and that’s the way we like it". (because the Guardian has told us that) //
Not really supposed. If you play the video you cand hear it.
// in the true football crowd tradition //
Racism isn't a tradition in football. It crept in during the 1970s when football was hijacked by hooligan gangs. We do not want a return to that, which the Paris incident certainly was.
// he actually trying to confront these football supporters in an aggressive way //
No he wasn't, he was a commuter trying to get home who was being prevented from boarding the train. Only you could try and blame the victim in this instance.
// the crowd were suppose to be shouting "We’re racist, we’re racist, and that’s the way we like it". (because the Guardian has told us that) //
Not really supposed. If you play the video you cand hear it.
// in the true football crowd tradition //
Racism isn't a tradition in football. It crept in during the 1970s when football was hijacked by hooligan gangs. We do not want a return to that, which the Paris incident certainly was.
// he actually trying to confront these football supporters in an aggressive way //
No he wasn't, he was a commuter trying to get home who was being prevented from boarding the train. Only you could try and blame the victim in this instance.
/// "What could I tell my children? That daddy was shoved around on the Metro because he is black? ///
And do you really believe that?
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And do you really believe that?
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Yes, that's exactly what it was - "A real act of racism".
We don't only know that they were chanting "We're racist etc." because that's what the Guardian told us. We know it because we have ears and can hear it on the link you posted.
I for one hope that they get identified, shipped back to Paris and flung in jail.
We don't only know that they were chanting "We're racist etc." because that's what the Guardian told us. We know it because we have ears and can hear it on the link you posted.
I for one hope that they get identified, shipped back to Paris and flung in jail.
///// "What could I tell my children? That daddy was shoved around on the Metro because he is black? ///
aog - it would appear that you have mis-understood that statement and that's probably why you have made such a ridiculous comment .
The guy isn't saying that he couldn't say to his children that he was too soft and was allowed to be pushed around by the chelsea ; supporters ' , therefore he had to to ''confront these football supporters in an aggressive way''
What he is saying how could tell his children that daddy was treated that way , just because he is black
aog - it would appear that you have mis-understood that statement and that's probably why you have made such a ridiculous comment .
The guy isn't saying that he couldn't say to his children that he was too soft and was allowed to be pushed around by the chelsea ; supporters ' , therefore he had to to ''confront these football supporters in an aggressive way''
What he is saying how could tell his children that daddy was treated that way , just because he is black
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