Black Celebrities Are Turning White.

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/04/15/general-election-2015-reg_n_7069624.html

We have all heard of the demise of such TV shows as the Black & White Minstrels along with other 'NO', 'NOs' of whites 'blacking up', so why is this allowed?

[woofgang]

this one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cg4TyYoOUuQ

[woofgang]

and this one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MH0K_XIIBow

[-Talbot-]

woofgang
I think they have a point and make it well...

Can you tell me why you think that, woof?

[anotheoldgit]

sp1814

/// I won't dwell on the (utterly ludicrous) comparison to the Black & White Minstrel Show, because of what has already been said. ///

Right so taking out the Black & White Minstrel comparison, you would have no objection against white people 'blacking up' so as to get a particular point over that effects just white Britons?

Just in case it happens some time in the future, but having said that we all know that we would have to wait for hell to freeze over before that would happen.

[andy-hughes]

AOG - //Right so taking out the Black & White Minstrel comparison, you would have no objection against white people 'blacking up' so as to get a particular point over that effects just white Britons?//

The essential basis of the point being made is to emphasise the disenfranchisement of black and Asian people when it comes to voting - because they are in a minority.

So how could any white person make a parallel point when they are in the majority?

I did observe that I thought your comparison with the Black & White Minstrels was purely for debate stimulation - because you could not believe that it was valid in and of itself.

I am reconsidering my position on that following your last post.

[-Talbot-]

The essential basis of the point being made is to emphasise the disenfranchisement of black and Asian people when it comes to voting - because they are in a minority.


That makes no sense to me.

[anotheoldgit]

Me neither.

[andy-hughes]

Talbot -and AOG - //The essential basis of the point being made is to emphasise the disenfranchisement of black and Asian people when it comes to voting - because they are in a minority.


That makes no sense to me. //

What makes no sense - the video, or the fact that black and Asian people feel that they are in a minority, or the fact that black and Asian people are in a minority?

[anotheoldgit]

Oxford English dictionary definition of the word 'disenfranchised'.

/// Deprive (someone) of the right to vote: the law disenfranchised some 3,000 voters on the basis of a residence qualification ///

Who is depriving Black and Asians from voting because they are in a minority?

[naomi24]

^Pass.

[andy-hughes]

AOG - vocabulary.com - "The adjective disenfranchised describes a person or group of people who are stripped of their power, like disenfranchised immigrants who pay taxes but aren’t allowed to vote in elections."

You can pick any definition to suit your argument - but then so can anyone.

[anotheoldgit]

The video????????????????????????????

[naomi24]

andy-hughes, //like disenfranchised immigrants who pay taxes but aren’t allowed to vote in elections." //

... but that doesn't apply either.

[tamborine]

Only those registered as occupying domestic properties paying council tax, get a vote. Men friends of lone mothers on HB, who are 'illegal' occupants drop under the radar....whatever colour.

[ukanonymous]

This is what it says to me. I don't know why but it just does.

If you don't vote then you are more likely to be governed by racist tycoons. In such a place where race is supposed to be come as irrelevant as gender this is doing rather the opposite as far as I can see.

Complete bad taste trash. To be honest I find it slightly racist to both black people and white people. Horrible.

[wolf63]

The only thing the article teaches me is that these people look much better with dark skin than with the grey/white skin. David Harewood still has weirdly pointy lugs.

[-Talbot-]

I bet Sol Cambell wishes he had white-ed up when playing football for England, he would have been captain for about 10 years.

[sp1814]

AOG

I think the Black & White Minstrel analogy is extremely simplistic. I won't dwell on it.

I think this campaign is worthwhile and if it does its job (galvanising a section of the community to vote) then that's all the better.

Why is this campaign so hard to swallow, when the campaign to encourage young people to vote (all over CH4 and starring the kids from 'Gogglebox') goes without mention?

Okay to encourage one section of society, but not another?

Please explain!

[woofgang]

Talbot, to me its another way of making the comment "If you don't vote, don't complain" Given the stats on the number of black voters (which are percentages, not absolutes, so minority status doesn't enter in to it) they seem to have a point, pretty much the same point as the "you can't come in" ads but aimed at a different demographic

[-Talbot-]

Back to my first post ...is this campaign aimed at black/asian men?

Where are the black/asian women?