Isn't It Time That More Listened To Nigel Farage?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2015-32510915

Is he just being scaremongering or racist, when he predict that Islamic extremists could cross the Mediterranean and gain access to the UK?

What better way could they 'invade' Europe, and if they did wouldl we see the return of another 'Battle of Britain'?

[vetuste_ennemi]

Are you there, expert?

[naomi24]

SP, //How do I know what he's talking about.//

That wasn’t my question. I said if you know little about Islam how do you know that DTC knows what he’s talking about? He might be saying what you want to hear but it doesn’t follow that he knows what he’s talking about.

[sp1814]

naomi24

Quite easy.

When someone makes a claim on AB, I like to check out the validity by looking up facts using online resources.

That's only with facts, obviously it doesn't apply to opinion.

But that leads me to another thing that I enjoy about the News section - sudden and unexpected influxes of fact to balance the reams of opinion.

[THEMOTLEY1]

To be fair to DTC he can certainly Copy and Paste!

[naomi24]

SP, if the ‘facts’ emanate from on-line sources originally, the chances are that you too will find those same ‘facts’ on-line. How you consider that to be validation I can’t imagine.

[sp1814]

naomi24

Tell you what - don't obsess over it. My opinion isn't worth the energy you're expending here.

[naomi24]

SP, oh dear. :o)

[vetuste_ennemi]

Fascinating: you couldn't make it up! Have been away reading the FULL article written by Australian Ray Harris whose first section The Tapestry of Islam was the formed part of DTC's excellent post (for which thanks, DTC). I agree with everything Harris has to say! YES! Everything! To put it another way, by the skewed "standards" of some AB patsies (yes, you know who you are) the "authority" DTC quotes (apparently to prove himself an expert and me an ignorant and uninformed b-ser ) is himself an Islamophobe.
As SP professes himself a lover of rational discourse, a seeker of facts and solicitous for truth (and most other honourable and decent things) maybe he would care to read the article himself. If you can't find time in between all those interviews you conduct to read it all, SP, I'll happily provide a précis of of its main arguments. Please let me know, there's a good boy.
Meanwhile I will prepare a post with some of Harris' more cogent attacks on modish mind-mash Patsyism.
DO you have any suggestions, DTC? Which bits would cause you and your friends the biggest discpmfort and mine (if I have any) the biggest amusement?
This is the link: http://www.integralworld.net/harris23.html
Thank you, Shaney Star for tracking DTC's source down.
Here's only a very mild taster:
"This is where many in the West have been fooled. They grab onto to the term moderate Muslim as if the 'moderate' in question believes the same sort of things a moderate Westerner might. This is often far from the truth. Many moderate Muslims are very conservative by Western standards. So much so that the term moderate is next to useless. It is a Western term that has little bearing on the reality of Islamic politics.".
Love the use of the word "fooled".
DYOR, eh. Well said, SP!

[Svejk]

Lmao.

[vetuste_ennemi]

Here'd another little snippet, Svejk:
"The denial of Muslim culpability usually takes the form of the retort, 'but the radicals represent a tiny minority.' This is a disingenuous argument because nobody knows the extent of support for the orthodox view. But we do have some clues that it is far more extensive than Muslims want to admit..."
And proceeds to enumerate cases.

[vetuste_ennemi]

Ray Harris has written a book called "The Myth of Islam as a Religion of Peace".