Labour's Future

[ludwig]

Can they ever again expect to form a majority government, or is the best they can hope for from now on a coalition with the SNP?

[Old_Geezer]

I recall when a similar question was asked of the Tories. Times change. When the public get fed up of tolerating one lot, they put the others in for a while.

[ToraToraTora]

they'll have to do a Tony and become the Tories.

[mikey4444]

Labour will continue to be the main opposition Party in Westminster ludwig.

They will have the assistance of all the others Parties, not least the SNP, who have already said they will fight tooth and nail to vote down the Tories.

[Ellipsis]

Labour has a lot of thinking to do.

They are OK in Wales. They need a more centre-left leader to appeal to the English voters, and to figure out how to do this and regain a further-left Scotland at the same time (without relying on an SNP implosion).

The last thing they should ever do is go into coalition with the SNP. That would be a disaster for Labour.

[DTCwordfan]

They are consulting with Mikey as we speak.

Where is he today, under a bush pie-eyed?

[DTCwordfan]

Ah, there you are, Mikey, a bit of a shock, I guess.....

[ludwig]

// I recall when a similar question was asked of the Tories. Times change. When the public get fed up of tolerating one lot, they put the others in for a while. //

Can they really regain all those seats in Scotland? It'll be a while before that happens if ever. The Scots no longer have any reason to vote Labour.

[anotheoldgit]

Ellipsis

/// The last thing they should ever do is go into coalition with the SNP. That would be a disaster for Labour. ///

It has already been a disaster for Labour with or without the SNP.

[youngmafbog]

Laour lost because they had the wrong Milliband and Balls.

I seriously believe with David and Alistair Darling things would have been very different.

Labour can get it back but they have to move away from the class warriors.

[Gromit]

it was said that had Scotland left the United Kingdom that there would be permanent Tory rule in the rest of the UK.

Now Labour are all but eradicted in Scotland, that could result in them being out of power for several elections. They are nearly 100 seats behind the Tories, and it is difficult to see how they can make that up without Scotland.

[Slapshot]

They don't have a future.... that simple

[mikey4444]

DTC...it was a bit of a shock to lots people and if they it wasn't they are fibbing. Nobody really expected what has come about. But Labour will come back, that's for sure. Whatever the chatterati are saying this morning, Britain is still a two horse town.

By the way, what's the delay down in St Ives ?

[Ellipsis]

Not sure what you're saying there ... even if Labour won every seat the SNP won - 56 more seats - the Tories would still have a majority.

Labour lost it in England.

[Old_Geezer]

They don't need to regain the seats in Scotland; although I suspect many will slip back into the Labour camp when they realise that the SNP, like all small parties, is fairly toothless on its own, and they feel they have compensated the party for not voting for independence. No, the real change will be driven by the fact that any nation is going to get fed up of the existing government at some stage, and sooner or later enough voters drift into voting for giving the alternative a chance.

[Baldric]

St Ives gets a mention here

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2015-32644231

[Slapshot]

@sonorafishfish ... what claptrap.... Labour had to beat the Tories in England, theres only 59 seats north of the border..... lets do the sums 650-59 =591 ..... if Labour can't beat the in the South, don't blame Scotland