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Some Good News From Thursday
Apparently, the BNP vote collapsed on Thursday night, and they lost their deposit in every constituency where they stood:
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I suspect that UKIP has effectively destroyed the BNP...not because UKIP is a racist party, but much of what UKIP chimes well with BNP voters.
Or is there another reason?
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I suspect that UKIP has effectively destroyed the BNP...not because UKIP is a racist party, but much of what UKIP chimes well with BNP voters.
Or is there another reason?
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it tends to be when the majority of the population feels that times are really hard, that the message of extremists gets listened to. the classic example of this was in Germany in the 1920s - once the german economy began to recover from the crisis that followed WW1, support for the nazis all but evaporated, sinking to less than 3% in 1928. (the wall street crash changed all that).
Britain's economy is still definitely not the best, but we're in a better place than we were in 2010, and unemployment has fallen by 3% since 2012. the extremist view, whether left or right, is currently irrelevant.
Britain's economy is still definitely not the best, but we're in a better place than we were in 2010, and unemployment has fallen by 3% since 2012. the extremist view, whether left or right, is currently irrelevant.
The BNP was quite active in around 2008 -2010, with two seats in the European Parliament in 2009 -- same as the SNP and the Greens! -- along with 55 councillors.
And then they collapsed, but this had already happened before THursday. Part of the reason the vote was so low is that the number of candidates was. 300-odd in 2010. 8 in 2015.
And then they collapsed, but this had already happened before THursday. Part of the reason the vote was so low is that the number of candidates was. 300-odd in 2010. 8 in 2015.
//when has the BNP had any active roll in British politics? //
at their peak in 2008-9, they had a seat on the London Assembly, seats in the European Parliament and a number of county councillors.
oh and don't diss the loonies, whose founder, the 3rd Earl of Harrow, formulated the party to highlight the ridiculuousness of some aspects of British party politics - i do hope he's peering down from his cloud happy in the knowledge that his light still burns bright.
at their peak in 2008-9, they had a seat on the London Assembly, seats in the European Parliament and a number of county councillors.
oh and don't diss the loonies, whose founder, the 3rd Earl of Harrow, formulated the party to highlight the ridiculuousness of some aspects of British party politics - i do hope he's peering down from his cloud happy in the knowledge that his light still burns bright.
The BNP fractured and imploded several years ago and only stood 8 candidates.
They had proved utterly incompetent as elected representatives: all the council seats they won had been swiftly lost.
Their leader (a former lieutenant of Nick Griffin who posed fraudulently as a service veteran on campaign outings) couldn't even face appearing on TV recently.
They had proved utterly incompetent as elected representatives: all the council seats they won had been swiftly lost.
Their leader (a former lieutenant of Nick Griffin who posed fraudulently as a service veteran on campaign outings) couldn't even face appearing on TV recently.
TTT, in most constituencies, the voters of the majority party would vote for a goat if it had the right colour rosette on - so a good proportion of the 331 you quote were never going to change colour. the good news you speak of would be limited to those seats where the result was a good deal less certain. just my pedantic view mind.
//UKIP got less votes on Thursday than they did in the low turnout European elections a year ago.//
they seem to be doing better at local level though.....
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they seem to be doing better at local level though.....
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The downfall of the BNP didn't start on Thursday SP.
it began when Nick Griffin appeared on Question Time, and exposed us all to the real truth about the BNP, and the odious Griffin. Letting him on to the program was the best favour the BBC could have possibly down for us, although the BBC was castigated at the time. Add to that the expensive Court proceedings and in-Party squabbling, it was obvious that the BNP were dead in the water years ago. They never really did matter and while we have all to hold our noses when they pop up, it really doesn't matter one bit. The ultra right-wing in Britain is completely irrelevant. It might attract a few racist nutters and football hooligans but that is all it does. Ditto for the EDL and Britain First.
Another good bit of news is the complete ineffectiveness of UKIP. They started with a paltry two MPs and ended the night with an even more paltry one MP. We were promised all sorts of surprising things by Farage, but the mould of British politics is still intact, despite all the f a r t and thunder from him and his motley crew.
Bye bye Nigel !
it began when Nick Griffin appeared on Question Time, and exposed us all to the real truth about the BNP, and the odious Griffin. Letting him on to the program was the best favour the BBC could have possibly down for us, although the BBC was castigated at the time. Add to that the expensive Court proceedings and in-Party squabbling, it was obvious that the BNP were dead in the water years ago. They never really did matter and while we have all to hold our noses when they pop up, it really doesn't matter one bit. The ultra right-wing in Britain is completely irrelevant. It might attract a few racist nutters and football hooligans but that is all it does. Ditto for the EDL and Britain First.
Another good bit of news is the complete ineffectiveness of UKIP. They started with a paltry two MPs and ended the night with an even more paltry one MP. We were promised all sorts of surprising things by Farage, but the mould of British politics is still intact, despite all the f a r t and thunder from him and his motley crew.
Bye bye Nigel !
In my opinion Orderlimit, yes they did, by splitting the anti-Tory vote. But nothing like as effectively as the complete collapse of the LibDems. If you look at the results in my own constituency of Gower, you can see why it has now returned a Tory MP for the first time in over a 100 years, albeit with the slimmest of majorities of 27, which should be easy to over come in 2010, thank God.
Not really. Plainly not in Scotland - and in England and Wales they polled well in places but not sufficently to make a difference anywhere.
It was been claimed that UKIP voters in Morley helped unseat Ed Balls, which is true, but only by default. The same claim could be made of any candidate anywhere who polled more than the winning candidate's majority.
In Morley, the Tory and Labour votes hardly changed, but UKIP and the Lib Dems swapped almost exactly. So arguably Labour lost the disaffected Lib Dem voters, but would they have voted Labour anyway?
It was been claimed that UKIP voters in Morley helped unseat Ed Balls, which is true, but only by default. The same claim could be made of any candidate anywhere who polled more than the winning candidate's majority.
In Morley, the Tory and Labour votes hardly changed, but UKIP and the Lib Dems swapped almost exactly. So arguably Labour lost the disaffected Lib Dem voters, but would they have voted Labour anyway?
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