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Just dusting off the Peace In Our Time script for you to use in your defence of the indefensible
08:10 Mon 15th Jun 2015
Yet again the Muslim haters queue up to gloat about the death of a child.
I do not for one moment condone has actions, or believe that his death should overshadow the loss of the innocent people who died, but let's keep a sense of proportion shall we?
The death of a child is a tragedy, and no amount of 'good riddance's and 'better off dead's and 'one less's should detract from that.
It is easy to sit here in safe non-violent England and gloat about the death of a misguided young man - but that sort of sentiment moves you closer to the casual disregard for human life that fuels the very people whom you hate, and who sent this impressionable teenager to die.
I do not for one moment condone has actions, or believe that his death should overshadow the loss of the innocent people who died, but let's keep a sense of proportion shall we?
The death of a child is a tragedy, and no amount of 'good riddance's and 'better off dead's and 'one less's should detract from that.
It is easy to sit here in safe non-violent England and gloat about the death of a misguided young man - but that sort of sentiment moves you closer to the casual disregard for human life that fuels the very people whom you hate, and who sent this impressionable teenager to die.
mikey - //Well said Andy, but you will win no prizes for saying so. //
Thanks - and I don't expect I shall.
But just because a knee-jerk reaction is easy, and basic, does not make it right. Close-minded hatred is what drives IS, so if we exhibit the same approach, how much better are we than them?
I know we don't go around bombing innocent people, but the mindset is what matters, because it is only by changing the mindset of radicalised young people that we will change anything, and simply bouncing hatred back like some vitriolic ping pong ball only means that things are never going to change.
Thanks - and I don't expect I shall.
But just because a knee-jerk reaction is easy, and basic, does not make it right. Close-minded hatred is what drives IS, so if we exhibit the same approach, how much better are we than them?
I know we don't go around bombing innocent people, but the mindset is what matters, because it is only by changing the mindset of radicalised young people that we will change anything, and simply bouncing hatred back like some vitriolic ping pong ball only means that things are never going to change.
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I heard on the radio this morning that 'he kept himself to himself'. That might be another way of saying he was lonely. He was likely the type of youngster the groomers/recruiters are looking for.
He was as much a victim as the young girls from care homes who were groomed to later be sexually abused. Nobody would say that all they had to do was say'No'.
He was as much a victim as the young girls from care homes who were groomed to later be sexually abused. Nobody would say that all they had to do was say'No'.
Ratter - //Why would they see it as a tragedy, surely they are happy with his promotion to martyrdom and his place in heaven!? //
For your argument to be valid, you would need to assume that all Muslims are extremists who believe in the concept of martyrdom.
Of course, they don't - extemists are, by definition, a minority - and it is wrong to assume that all followers of that faith are similarly careless of human life, including their own.
A parallele would be to be a Christian, and to have your faith aligned with the Westboro Baptist Church, who fervently preach their believe in God and the bible, but represent nothing that means anything to a Christian believer.
It is possible to be a Muslim and to be saddened and horrified by the words and actions of those who profess to hold your beliefs, even when clearly they don't.
For your argument to be valid, you would need to assume that all Muslims are extremists who believe in the concept of martyrdom.
Of course, they don't - extemists are, by definition, a minority - and it is wrong to assume that all followers of that faith are similarly careless of human life, including their own.
A parallele would be to be a Christian, and to have your faith aligned with the Westboro Baptist Church, who fervently preach their believe in God and the bible, but represent nothing that means anything to a Christian believer.
It is possible to be a Muslim and to be saddened and horrified by the words and actions of those who profess to hold your beliefs, even when clearly they don't.
Just dusting off the Peace In Our Time script for you to use in your defence of the indefensible, Andy.
Your loose use of 'hate' and 'hatred' as by so many today suggests a lazy shorthand approach to those daring to disagree with your rosy view of the world.
Disgust, disdain, disbelief at the attitude of appeasement toward the unspeakable maybe. But not hatred for all and sundry as your slightly hysterical spraff implies.
Your loose use of 'hate' and 'hatred' as by so many today suggests a lazy shorthand approach to those daring to disagree with your rosy view of the world.
Disgust, disdain, disbelief at the attitude of appeasement toward the unspeakable maybe. But not hatred for all and sundry as your slightly hysterical spraff implies.
At the end of the day, if his parents hadnt raised him as a Muslim he would almost certainly be alive today!!
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