Smell The Coffee

[tonyav]

Have the labour party woken up and are smelling the coffee.
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/other/harman-labour-will-not-vote-against-welfare-bill-and-limiting-child-tax-credits/ar-AAcSskO

[ichkeria]

'We cannot simply say to the people you were wrong at the election'
You don't have to Harriet: just do what is right. With that logic Labour should just support the Tories in everything. Why stop at hat? I used to like Ms Harman but time for her to exit stage left (or should that be 'right')

[Gromit]

She is only the interim leader.

There is plenty of time for the Party to elect someone with a more leftwing outlook.

[Hopkirk]

I suspect they are secretly glad they didn't win.

They would have had to do very similar things, but this way they can blame the 'heartless Tories'

[tonyav]

That's what I was thinking, Hopkirk.

[Gromit]

A little grumble.

"Wake up and smell the coffee" is an awful Americanism.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1282449/Americanisms-swamping-English-wake-smell-coffee.html

[tonyav]

Ok then Gromit, change 'Smell the coffee' to smell the Earl Grey ;-)

[askyourgran]

Why can't Harriet say what she feels, and admit that they got it all wrong at the election? There will be plenty of time for Labour to find disagreement with other Tory policies, but this time they are 'man' enough to admit their failures. It will take a while before they get back into true lefty form again, that is if the electorate want to believe them ever again. At the moment she is doing OK a voice of reason.

[Slapshot]

Wake up and smell whatever you like point stands the lefties would have had to do something similar or take down the opposite way jeopardising any sense of recovery

[mushroom25]

this would represent a more telling sniffing of the morning beverage -
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-33490959

[tonyav]

Voting records suggest he has rebelled against Labour 533 times since the party came to power under Tony Blair in 1997.


Blimey, is he sure that he is in the right party for him ?.

[Old_Geezer]

There has always been more than one way to skin a cat. If parties all agree the voter has no alternative to turn to when they realise they need to change strategies.

[Old_Geezer]

True. He should have joined a left wing political party. We used to have one of those.

[ichkeria]

If Harriet Harman thinks that it is right not to oppose welfare reform then I don't have a problem with that explanation, even though I would not agree with it.
As it is, it just sounds as though the party has bunged a few Tory policies in a hat and pulled out one or two that it can support just so as not to appear to be too much like the Labour Party!

[tonyav]

Old_Geezer
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True. He should have joined a left wing political party. We used to have one of those.


Ah yes OG, Tony Blair changed all that nonsense though didn't he ;-)

[mikey4444]

Gromit ....I agree ! (17:43).....we got rid of America in 1776 but we seem to have importing it back ever since !

Have you noticed how "math" is replacing the more grammatical Maths ?

[mushroom25]

//we got rid of America in 1776 //

umm, not exactly. they declared UDI then, but the war of independence was not settled until the Treaty of Paris, in 1783.

[mikey4444]

Thanks Mush ! I knew I would get something slightly wrong !

Have a nice day !

[mikey4444]

oldbobasusual...complete rubbish !

The Labour Party isn't finished yet, not by a long chalk. The Tories were in a much worse position in 1997, with no MPs in Wales or Scotland at all, and precious few elsewhere. ( 165 actually, against Labour's 232 now )

But the Tories managed to make a come back and so will the Labour Party.
They had to wade through a few wrong choices as Leader and may be Labour will as well. But to utterly dismiss the Labour Party now, shows a complete lack of a grasp of post-war history.

[DaisyNonna]

If I woke to smell the Earl Grey I would turn over and go back to sleep.