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British Family Helping Thousands Of Refugees On Lesbos
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Much as one can empathise with this British family and others who give their time in helping these peoples, but when are they going to understand, it is not their or even our fault that these people chose to pay traffickers so as to cross the sea in unseaworthy vessels.
They themselves chose their course of action, and by helping them, it will only encourage more to take the gamble, and there is no end to the possible vast numbers that they are encouraging to risk their lives.
Much as one can empathise with this British family and others who give their time in helping these peoples, but when are they going to understand, it is not their or even our fault that these people chose to pay traffickers so as to cross the sea in unseaworthy vessels.
They themselves chose their course of action, and by helping them, it will only encourage more to take the gamble, and there is no end to the possible vast numbers that they are encouraging to risk their lives.
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Nonsense, AOG
helicopters dropping barrel bombs or tanks shelling your town would make you want to leave your home behind too.
Hearing second-hand tales of others being helped along, in Greece, is hardly likely to influence your choice to leave home very much.
If there was news of a log-jam of refugees in Turkey and Greece, I don't see how that would discourage you either. Basically, if you get shot or have a building drop on you, what chance have your kids got?
If you're old and your children are grown enough to look after themselves then maybe stick around in Syria. You'd be no threat to ISIS and no use to Assad.
No guarantee you will not end up as collateral damage, of course but maybe living in a warzone is preferable to a 1000 mile walk, at your time of life, eh?
helicopters dropping barrel bombs or tanks shelling your town would make you want to leave your home behind too.
Hearing second-hand tales of others being helped along, in Greece, is hardly likely to influence your choice to leave home very much.
If there was news of a log-jam of refugees in Turkey and Greece, I don't see how that would discourage you either. Basically, if you get shot or have a building drop on you, what chance have your kids got?
If you're old and your children are grown enough to look after themselves then maybe stick around in Syria. You'd be no threat to ISIS and no use to Assad.
No guarantee you will not end up as collateral damage, of course but maybe living in a warzone is preferable to a 1000 mile walk, at your time of life, eh?
Hypognosis
/// Nonsense, AOG ///
/// helicopters dropping barrel bombs or tanks shelling your town would make you want to leave your home behind too. ///
In the short answer No.
During WW2 there may have not been helicopters, and they didn't drop barrel bombs, and there might not have been tanks shelling my town.
But there were certainly Dornier and Heinkel Bombers dropping bombs along with incendiaries, as well as their firing of machine gun bullets.
But even then I and many like me found no reason to leave my town, never mind our country.
/// Nonsense, AOG ///
/// helicopters dropping barrel bombs or tanks shelling your town would make you want to leave your home behind too. ///
In the short answer No.
During WW2 there may have not been helicopters, and they didn't drop barrel bombs, and there might not have been tanks shelling my town.
But there were certainly Dornier and Heinkel Bombers dropping bombs along with incendiaries, as well as their firing of machine gun bullets.
But even then I and many like me found no reason to leave my town, never mind our country.
/// Hearing second-hand tales of others being helped along, in Greece, is hardly likely to influence your choice to leave home very much. ///
You know that for certain do you?
You don't think perhaps that tales of distant lands of 'Milk and Honey' are not getting round then?
Isn't that the reason that they are not content with stopping in Greece, Italy etc, but are then prepared to walk if necessary to reach those 'Milk and Honey' lands?
Get real.
You know that for certain do you?
You don't think perhaps that tales of distant lands of 'Milk and Honey' are not getting round then?
Isn't that the reason that they are not content with stopping in Greece, Italy etc, but are then prepared to walk if necessary to reach those 'Milk and Honey' lands?
Get real.
/// No guarantee you will not end up as collateral damage, of course but maybe living in a warzone is preferable to a 1000 mile walk, at your time of life, eh? ///
No as old as I am, given a weapon, I would be prepared to stay and fight for my country, just as the old chaps were prepared to do 75 years ago, they were called The Home Guard (Dad's Army).
And the likes of you should be grateful there were MEN around like that all that time ago, so that you are now free to pontificate in the manner that you do.
No as old as I am, given a weapon, I would be prepared to stay and fight for my country, just as the old chaps were prepared to do 75 years ago, they were called The Home Guard (Dad's Army).
And the likes of you should be grateful there were MEN around like that all that time ago, so that you are now free to pontificate in the manner that you do.
@AOG
Your odds against a Luftwaffe bomb drop rather depended on how close you were to
1) a military facility
2) a dockyard
3) a manufacturing plant
4) a power station
5) a fuel depot
Since WWII bombers routinely failed to hit with a precision better than 1 mile of pinpoints, like the above, they eventually opted for
6) a major conurbation
If you were from a poor family, you might find yourself living near to types (1)-(5). You were at equal risk as everybody else, in a big city. If you lived in the countryside, you would have been exceptionally unlucky to have been affected by bombing at all.
Since Hitler never arrived, there were no tanks knocking our towns down.
In WWII there was nowhere for you to evacuate to - except the USA and a sea voyage would have been a roll of the dice, with U-boats about.
We are British and we love this place, so we would willingly fight to protect it. Syria used to be a well-developed place but now its mostly rubble. Only small areas of Britain got that badly hit in WWII.
How many bombed-out eastenders moved to Basildon, in the end?
Your odds against a Luftwaffe bomb drop rather depended on how close you were to
1) a military facility
2) a dockyard
3) a manufacturing plant
4) a power station
5) a fuel depot
Since WWII bombers routinely failed to hit with a precision better than 1 mile of pinpoints, like the above, they eventually opted for
6) a major conurbation
If you were from a poor family, you might find yourself living near to types (1)-(5). You were at equal risk as everybody else, in a big city. If you lived in the countryside, you would have been exceptionally unlucky to have been affected by bombing at all.
Since Hitler never arrived, there were no tanks knocking our towns down.
In WWII there was nowhere for you to evacuate to - except the USA and a sea voyage would have been a roll of the dice, with U-boats about.
We are British and we love this place, so we would willingly fight to protect it. Syria used to be a well-developed place but now its mostly rubble. Only small areas of Britain got that badly hit in WWII.
How many bombed-out eastenders moved to Basildon, in the end?
Forgot to mention the (statement of the obvious) point that a helicopter can hover directly over a specific house or tower block before dropping its bomb. Assad doesn't have to fly his helicopters far from the bases to city centres and he has aur superiority so there is no risk of his pilots being shot down.
Civilians are sitting ducks if they stay. If they so much as tweet against Assad and he works out where they live then their house is a goner. Civilians are not issued with rifles, like the Home Guard, so they can't fight back with anything more than stone throwing.
Common sense would tell me to leave, under such conditions.
Civilians are sitting ducks if they stay. If they so much as tweet against Assad and he works out where they live then their house is a goner. Civilians are not issued with rifles, like the Home Guard, so they can't fight back with anything more than stone throwing.
Common sense would tell me to leave, under such conditions.
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