The Next Time You Think About Opening A Window On A Bus Think Again.

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.itv.com/news/central/2015-10-06/cctv-images-show-men-wanted-for-repeated-stabbing-on-bus/

[anotheoldgit]

/// Hopefully you will get this before it goes as well! ///

Still there, now there's a surprise, (not really)

[andy-hughes]

AOG - and you do your own fair share of the attacking as well.

I hope you will think about that aspect of your contributions before you continue - and please don't reply to me because as advised previously, I am not up for a fight with you - this is merely a little friendly advice, one veteran AB'er to another - hopefully it will be received in the spirit in which it is offered.

[andy-hughes]

ivor - //"If everyone agreed with each other, then there would be no need to remove posts simply because this site would soon cease to exist, because it had become boring. "
my thoughts exactly AOG //

No-one is looking for everyone to agree with everyone, that indeed would be a very boring and redundant exercise.

But disagreement does not equal personal attacks, and debate does not equal nit-picking and provocation, and arguing does not involve insulting other points of view.

This site - and indeed this section - have survived because the majority of people do debate and argue their points well, and without rancour.

If those who decide to make it their persona fiefdom and shout down other people and attack individuals can either stop it, or stop posting - it will continue as it always has done.

This is a vociferous, but still very small minority, and the majority are not going to allow them to flourish and take over.

[anotheoldgit]

Gavmacp

/// To be quite honest I think you rather encourage it and for some reason get a thrill out of it. ///

Yes I rather encourage a good debate, and for that one has to be controversial, but that does not mean that one should be constantly taken to task for the thread's subject matter, the nationality of the persons involved, the wording of one's headline, or any spelling errors etc etc.

And also not being allowed to respond to other's personal insults, which when I happen to do constantly sees my posts removed or even complete legitimate threads removed.

[anotheoldgit]

You have made two statements there, which no one is allowed to respond to, because in your eyes it constitutes a person attack.

So how can debate be carried out, unless your statements are just ignored no matter what you say?

[Gavmacp]

Your threads (I don't follow all of them) seem,to me, to have a black and white element to them!
But if you can't stand the heat why are you in the kitchen? I rather prefer the lounge, much more gentle!

[andy-hughes]

AOG - //You have made two statements there, which no one is allowed to respond to, because in your eyes it constitutes a person attack.

So how can debate be carried out, unless your statements are just ignored no matter what you say? //

If that post is addressed to me, then obviously you did not read this part of my post at 16:43 -

//and please don't reply to me because as advised previously, I am not up for a fight with you - this is merely a little friendly advice, one veteran AB'er to another - hopefully it will be received in the spirit in which it is offered.//

If it is not addressed to me, then perhaps you can advise the recipient you intended it for, so they can reply, or not as they wish.

[ivor4781]

then again andy hughes my posts never attacked anyone on here, there were in response to the original question
but maybe they were not PC enough,

[Hypognosis]

AOG

//It is little wonder that there are not more posts removed, because I am personally attacked on a daily basis.//

These mods work so fast that I've never witnessed any such attacks on you, as a person.

Your arguments, however, get savaged on a regular basis but that is what debate is all about, as you rightly suggested.

If you bother people, it is because you are so one-dimensional. It is always along the lines of "non-white person does something bad". If they are 1 in 12 of the population and your choice of what to post was in any way balanced, you'd be posting 11 stories about white people behaving badly for every thread you currently post. Some AB members feel the need to remind you of your apparent bias, every time you post something with the slightest hint of a racial theme.

Is that is what you are perceiving to be a personal attack?