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Come To Britain And Travel In Style.
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http:// www.dai lymail. co.uk/n ews/art icle-32 71045/P ictured -50-000 -luxury -stretc h-Humme r-used- ferry-a sylum-s eekers- London- Manches ter-vil lage-co mplaine d-delug ed.html
Why the need to transport seven young African males, at a cost of £3,000, all the way from London to Manchester, in such luxurious transport?
Why the need to transport seven young African males, at a cost of £3,000, all the way from London to Manchester, in such luxurious transport?
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THECORBYLOON //Rana Saif, 55, who owns a pub in the village and took the photograph of the black limousine, said: ‘It’s a big waste of money – and taxpayers’ money at that. 'I have no problem with immigration, I moved here from Sweden, but there are too many in a small village. The limo was here about half an hour. I thought it must be a stag do. 'There were...
13:06 Wed 14th Oct 2015
andy_hughes
This bears repeating.
Just because this story has appeared several newspapers is not indicative of its veracity.
The way online news now works is nothing like how news was curated when we were younger.
There are now just three major news agencies.
Newspapers like the Mail and Telegraph will buy packaged stories from these agencies, normally without any normal checking protocols.
The same story (using exactly the same words) will appear across a number of titles.
A few monthly later, you normally find the actual truth at www.fullfact.org.
And then the cycle begins again.
This is a product of wafer thin margins that news sites operate under, and the overwhelming credulity of their readers.
This bears repeating.
Just because this story has appeared several newspapers is not indicative of its veracity.
The way online news now works is nothing like how news was curated when we were younger.
There are now just three major news agencies.
Newspapers like the Mail and Telegraph will buy packaged stories from these agencies, normally without any normal checking protocols.
The same story (using exactly the same words) will appear across a number of titles.
A few monthly later, you normally find the actual truth at www.fullfact.org.
And then the cycle begins again.
This is a product of wafer thin margins that news sites operate under, and the overwhelming credulity of their readers.
andy I've just seen your reply regarding daytime TV and you having to 'work for a living' -don't be so bloody patronising . I work for a living too and so do many people who are at home in the daytime -its called shift work! Also you can access TV on your PC at work and if you are the boss (like me) thats ok lol!
/// An excellent point - which simply adds substance to my point that - as usual - the Mail is using its readers' known prejudices to make a headline, and wind everyone up in the process. ///
/// And on the basis of the OP, it does appear to have done its job admirably. ///
It certainly seems to have winded you up.
I am getting rather fed-up with your accusations of prejudices and the insinuation that it appears to have done it's job admirably, who do you think you are?
Just because I chose the story from the Daily Mail's website, does not give you the right to criticise my choice of news report or my intentions.
As I have said previously this story is widespread across the media, and such things should not be covered up, the public has every right to know what is going off, even though you 'hand wringers' would wish such things to be kept quiet.
Here is the Guardian's report.
http:// www.the guardia n.com/b usiness /2015/o ct/14/s erco-cr iticise d-after -hiring -limo-t o-move- asylum- seekers
*** Rana Saif, who runs a local pub in the village, told the Daily Mail: “The limo was here about half an hour. I thought it must be a stag do. There were seven migrants, all young African men. ***
Perhaps it is our Mr Rana Saif who should be criticised for daring to report this story to the Daily Mail, along with also mentioning that they were all African men?
But so much easier and more fitting to your politics to blame the Mail, the gentleman also appears not to be a White Gentleman, so we can't have him criticised for spreading the story can we?
Any other ABer would either have their posts removed or at the worse suspended for doing much less than you get away with.
/// And on the basis of the OP, it does appear to have done its job admirably. ///
It certainly seems to have winded you up.
I am getting rather fed-up with your accusations of prejudices and the insinuation that it appears to have done it's job admirably, who do you think you are?
Just because I chose the story from the Daily Mail's website, does not give you the right to criticise my choice of news report or my intentions.
As I have said previously this story is widespread across the media, and such things should not be covered up, the public has every right to know what is going off, even though you 'hand wringers' would wish such things to be kept quiet.
Here is the Guardian's report.
http://
*** Rana Saif, who runs a local pub in the village, told the Daily Mail: “The limo was here about half an hour. I thought it must be a stag do. There were seven migrants, all young African men. ***
Perhaps it is our Mr Rana Saif who should be criticised for daring to report this story to the Daily Mail, along with also mentioning that they were all African men?
But so much easier and more fitting to your politics to blame the Mail, the gentleman also appears not to be a White Gentleman, so we can't have him criticised for spreading the story can we?
Any other ABer would either have their posts removed or at the worse suspended for doing much less than you get away with.
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AOG - //I am getting rather fed-up with your accusations of prejudices and the insinuation that it appears to have done it's job admirably, who do you think you are? //
As usual, you are determined to make anything I say a personal attack against you, and you in turn feel the need to attack in response.
In the interest of the section and the site as a whole, I shall decline to continue arguing with you - we know where it leads, and it doesn't help anyone.
I am sorry you feel under attack, only from me it appears, but since you take such exception to my posts, I shall cease providing them on this thread.
As usual, you are determined to make anything I say a personal attack against you, and you in turn feel the need to attack in response.
In the interest of the section and the site as a whole, I shall decline to continue arguing with you - we know where it leads, and it doesn't help anyone.
I am sorry you feel under attack, only from me it appears, but since you take such exception to my posts, I shall cease providing them on this thread.
Retrochic - //andy I've just seen your reply regarding daytime TV and you having to 'work for a living' -don't be so bloody patronising . I work for a living too and so do many people who are at home in the daytime -its called shift work!//
I did not intend my observation to be patronising - and that is why I added the 'not complaining' point, to demonstrate that I was being sarcastic - sorry if that passed you by.
// Also you can access TV on your PC at work and if you are the boss (like me) thats ok lol! //
I am not the boss, and my employers do not allow access to TV through our computers.
I did not intend my observation to be patronising - and that is why I added the 'not complaining' point, to demonstrate that I was being sarcastic - sorry if that passed you by.
// Also you can access TV on your PC at work and if you are the boss (like me) thats ok lol! //
I am not the boss, and my employers do not allow access to TV through our computers.
Mamyalynne - //So the conclusion of the story is that the company had a Hummer available that day instead of a mini bus and no extra cost was incurred.
I can see it may have looked odd to the villagers, a vehicle like that rather stands out doesn't it? //
That is the objective view of the story, but daily tabloids don't work on objectivity, the work on aligning their stance with the views of their readers - as all have done, but the OP centred on the Mail's treatment of the story, so that is why I for one have been commenting accordingly.
I can see it may have looked odd to the villagers, a vehicle like that rather stands out doesn't it? //
That is the objective view of the story, but daily tabloids don't work on objectivity, the work on aligning their stance with the views of their readers - as all have done, but the OP centred on the Mail's treatment of the story, so that is why I for one have been commenting accordingly.
retrochic - //Retrochic - //crossed posts andy - but you did imply that people watching daytime TV did not 'work for a living' did you not? //
I have just re-read my post, and I can see it was carelessly worded - I would never wish to infer that people who are at home for periods of the day do not work - my lovely wife is a prime example.
Again, apologies to any who were upset by my careless use of expression.
I have just re-read my post, and I can see it was carelessly worded - I would never wish to infer that people who are at home for periods of the day do not work - my lovely wife is a prime example.
Again, apologies to any who were upset by my careless use of expression.
// Don't let Gromit draw you Togo, it is just his way of diverting attention from a sensitive issue. //
It is not sensitive with me, it is a made up story. No taxpayers money was wasted. A cross reference to Osborne doubling the National Debt when discussing wasting tax payers money is not diverting anything.
As usual, you link to a story in the Daily Mail and make a conclusion and the story turns out to be wrong and your conclusion looks silly. It would be fair enough if this were a one off, but you repeat the same mistake every day.
Now the facts are know, will you offer an apology for misleading us?
It is not sensitive with me, it is a made up story. No taxpayers money was wasted. A cross reference to Osborne doubling the National Debt when discussing wasting tax payers money is not diverting anything.
As usual, you link to a story in the Daily Mail and make a conclusion and the story turns out to be wrong and your conclusion looks silly. It would be fair enough if this were a one off, but you repeat the same mistake every day.
Now the facts are know, will you offer an apology for misleading us?
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