Janet Hills, President Of National Black Police Association.

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/oct/24/janet-hills-national-black-police-association-president-interview

/// “I was driving,” she says, “and I had my hood up because my hair was wet. So they couldn’t identify that I was a woman, and because the car is registered to a woman, that was why [they stopped me]. But if I had blonde hair and blue eyes … come on.” ///

How would they know that person had blonde hair and blue eyes, if they had their hood over their head?

Oh come on, a person in your position should not be too eager to play the race card.

What if it had been a person of any colour who had actually stolen your car, you would have soon got onto who was responsible for not stopping the car, and questioning the driver.

[Gromit]

You missed out the best bit AOG...

// an off duty officer went past and waved to me, and that’s when they found out [I was police].” You would think that might be the end of it. In fact, it only made things worse. “They tried to get me in trouble. Because I was objecting to the reasons that they had stopped me, and I was a police officer, they thought: we’d better get in there first. //

If the suspicion that the stop was racially motivated was in doubt, the subsequent actions of trying to get a black colleague in trouble probably confirmed that it was.

[jomifl]

Perhaps driving with her hood up had something to do with it. Wouldn't aid visibility.

[ToraToraTora]

is there national white police association?

[TheChair]

"is there national white police association?"
Yes, there are two. ACPO and the Police Federation.
But I've never heard of the police picking on someone because they are white.

[Svejk]

She was, doubtless, praying she'd get stopped one day, jom.

[Mamyalynne]

That's a very good article, interesting reading - more than just that snippet.

[Gromit]

Jomifl,

She was not stopped because the hoody made her driving unsafe (dubious), she was stopped because they thought she was a male and the car belonged to a female. Sounds like a genuine mistake. But to then try and get her into trouble was mot a mistake.

[Svejk]

///But I've never heard of the police picking on someone because they are white///

Plenty of people of all colours, myself included, have been stopped by the police. We don't all whinge about being 'picked on'.

[ToraToraTora]

ACPO and the federation are for any colour.

[New Judge]

"is there national white police association?"

I think we’ve had this debate before, 3Ts. The NBPA go to great pains to emphasise that their association is open to officers of any colour. So that’s alright then. However, when looking at their objectives, one may wonder why any non-black officers would want to join:

“From its inception the NBPA has sought to highlight issues facing BME staff in the Police Service, helping those in need of support by lending a listening ear and giving support.”

So, imagine a “National White Police Association” was to be formed:

“From its inception the NWPA has sought to highlight issues facing white staff in the Police Service, helping those in need of support by lending a listening ear and giving support.”

"Yes, there are two. ACPO and the Police Federation.”

These two associations (the first for Commanders and above in London and for Chief Constables, their Assistants and Deputies elsewhere and the other for the lower ranks) do not have objectives aimed specifically at white police officers, as 3Ts has correctly pointed out. It is true that they too are open to officers of all colours. However, unlike the NBPA, their aims and objectives do not specifically mention white staff as the NBPA mentions BMEs. The two things are not equivalent at all.

There is no doubt in my mind that the NBPA is for black and minority ethnic officers only, whatever they may contend to avoid anti-discrimination action. If a National White Police Association were proposed there would be an outcry because, of course, apart from having no association to lobby for them specifically, white police officers do not have issues and problems which specifically face them do they?

[anotheoldgit]

New Judge

/// The NBPA go to great pains to emphasise that their association is open to officers of any colour. ///

According to Wikipedia, *** white people can support it only as associate members. ***

/// So, imagine a “National White Police Association” was to be formed: ///

And the same was said "Black people can support it only as associate members".

Oh dear, oh dear!!!!

[bazwillrun]

"We don't all whinge about being 'picked on'"

no, but then we dont all carry a large bag of McDs fries on our shoulders do we !?...just like those always looking to find something to be offended by so blacks will always claim the race card whenever they dont get what they want...

[Mamyalynne]

I have been an 'Associate member' of organisations where I did not fully meet full member status, wasn't a problem to me.

After all I wanted to be involved, so it was my choice.


Still say the article linked to is a good one, read in its entirety not just one instance.

[jomifl]

/where I did not fully meet full member status/

but not because of your skin colour surely?

[Mamyalynne]

No.

[Orderlimit]

Translation

I was once stopped by an observant and proactive police patrol. They were acting in the public's interest and it was all conducted in accordance with UK law, but I knew I was only stopped because I am black. There could be no other reasonable explanation.

Anyway, an off-duty friend saw how unfairly I was being treated and started waving in distress. I decided not to comply and became verbally abusive to the officers who had the cheek to report me. I was annoyed as I wanted to get my complaint in first so I tried a different angle.

[Mamyalynne]

As Janet says a 'critical friend' is a good thing, she has plenty by the looks of it.

[TheChair]

Spot the black faces in among the principal offices of the Police Federation.
http://www.polfed.org/aboutus/186.aspx

[Orderlimit]

Even the Chair of the Fed is a Mr White ^