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How Much More "due Process" Must We Afford This Pond Life?
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I don’t think anybody is suggesting that people can be shot by the police without question, Eddie, and that’s certainly not what has happened here. As your article points out, there have been numerous enquiries and investigatio
15:38 Tue 27th Oct 2015
Mushroom - I am answering TGT and his insistence on referring to anyone disagreeing with him (those are the 'intelligent ones' I mention) as 'Friends Of Criminal Scum'.
I hold no brief for no-marks like Duggan and the world is not a poorer place for his passing....but it is Duggan's family who are appealling the decision, and I am not aware that they are all drug-dealing scumbags...are you?
I hold no brief for no-marks like Duggan and the world is not a poorer place for his passing....but it is Duggan's family who are appealling the decision, and I am not aware that they are all drug-dealing scumbags...are you?
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Plenty of controversial points,from both sides!!
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Plenty of controversial points,from both sides!!
bazwillrun - //What a waste of time and money.... //
That is where yourself and TTT, and jack and I part company - jack and I don't believe that seeking justice for anyone is a waste of money.
Fortunately, justice is not denied to you on the basis of what a member of your family may or may not have done - you get it because it is your entitlement.
That is where yourself and TTT, and jack and I part company - jack and I don't believe that seeking justice for anyone is a waste of money.
Fortunately, justice is not denied to you on the basis of what a member of your family may or may not have done - you get it because it is your entitlement.
I don’t think anybody is suggesting that people can be shot by the police without question, Eddie, and that’s certainly not what has happened here. As your article points out, there have been numerous enquiries and investigations culminating in a full jury inquest, led by a senior circuit judge. Nothing in your article is material not known to that inquest and, as far as I can see, no fresh evidence has come to light.
I think that those who are saying that “enough is enough” have a valid point. The question worth addressing is, had that jury returned a verdict of unlawful killing, would an appeal against that decision have been granted? I think it highly unlikely which leads people to believe that the enquiries will only cease when the “right” verdict has been reached.
I am the first to defend the exhaustion of the proper legal process and if the family are entitled to an appeal then so be it. But I have a faint suspicion that if the appeal does not go in their favour it will not be the last we hear from them. Their demand for “justice” is not that at all. Justice will always leave one of the parties disappointed. Their demand is for the people who killed Duggan – who were doing a difficult and dangerous job and who did not have six months to mull the matter over in agreeable surroundings - to be punished, whether the killing was held to be lawful or not. Nothing else will do for them.
I think that those who are saying that “enough is enough” have a valid point. The question worth addressing is, had that jury returned a verdict of unlawful killing, would an appeal against that decision have been granted? I think it highly unlikely which leads people to believe that the enquiries will only cease when the “right” verdict has been reached.
I am the first to defend the exhaustion of the proper legal process and if the family are entitled to an appeal then so be it. But I have a faint suspicion that if the appeal does not go in their favour it will not be the last we hear from them. Their demand for “justice” is not that at all. Justice will always leave one of the parties disappointed. Their demand is for the people who killed Duggan – who were doing a difficult and dangerous job and who did not have six months to mull the matter over in agreeable surroundings - to be punished, whether the killing was held to be lawful or not. Nothing else will do for them.
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