This Non Britain, Is Released And Heading For Britain.

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3296382/Last-British-prisoner-Guantanamo-Bay-Shaker-Aamer-released-13-years.html

I wonder who will be picking up the bill when this Saudi Arabian, sues for compensation?

[Baldric]

///AOG...don't be silly...Yanks is a perfectly OK term to use.///

Not according to The Oxford Dictionary

Who say,

YANK noun

1, chiefly derogatory An American.

[Gromit]

The link you request is here

http://www.lrb.co.uk/v37/n10/seymour-m-hersh/the-killing-of-osama-bin-laden

About the author:
// Seymour Myron "Sy" Hersh (born April 8, 1937) is an American investigative journalist and political writer based in Washington, D.C. He is a regular contributor to The New Yorker magazine on military and security matters. He has also won two National Magazine Awards and is a five-time Polk winner and recipient of the 2004 George Orwell Award.

He first gained recognition in 1969 for exposing the My Lai Massacre and its cover-up during the Vietnam War, for which he received the 1970 Pulitzer Prize for International Reporting. //

[jackthehat]

///Just don't go to a war zone if you are not in the military and have a proveable reason for being there.///

I agree.
But Shaker Aamer was there in 2002 when the world was a different place. Yes, it was post 9/11, but the War on Terror hadn't cranked itself into the fully-fledged Military machine it subsequently became.

[Svejk]

That's right, gromit. Another mistake by the so-called intelligence agencies. (larf)

[anotheoldgit]

/// If he wasn't a radicalised Anti-West terrorist before his incarceration, it would be hardly surprising if he became so, now. ///

mikey4444

/// Another common sense post Jack ! ///

What!!! rightly understanding if he chooses to become a Anti-West terrorist?

[jackthehat]

AOG - As you can clearly see, I said that it would be 'hardly surprising', please don't twist that into anything other than what it says.

[Svejk]

Hey, that's what happened to the one I posted about, aog. ;-)

[Gromit]

// That's right, gromit. Another mistake by the so-called intelligence agencies. (lard) //

Oh no, there have been a lot more mistakes...

Of the 780 detainees:
2 have been convicted, of the lesser charge of providing material support.
1 was convicted and then acquitted.
7 cases were dismissed or withdrawn

[retrocop]

So the Americans flew to a Pakistani Gaol which was unguarded. Shot the captive and whisked the body to a waiting aircraft aircraft by chopper. He was given Islamic funeral rites and immediately fed the fishes so as not to make a martyr of him. No requirement to keep him for questioning by the intelligence!!!
We have a lone U.S. army patrol in the middle of nowhere who find Saddam Hussein hidden in a rathole. Why didn't the U.S. just bump off Saddam, like they are alledged to have with Bin Laden ,and say nothing rather than go through a show trial where he is going to hang in any case .
If Bin Laden was shot in the cell why bring the body back to a flat top. Photographs and DNA could be quickly obtained before extraction by the team who "shot him" if all they needed was proof of death and correct ID of the body.
I see the writer of this theory got a George Orwell Award in 2004. Remind me what genre of literature did George Orwell write. Fiction mostly.
George Orwell he was a bit left wing anti everything sort of cove wasn''t he?
Anti-establishment,Empire and anything British I suppose.

[retrocop]

Gromit are you saying 10 mistakes if I count correctly?

[Gromit]

Retro,

780 detainees, 2 successful prosecutions.

780 -2 = 778 mistakes.

[Gromit]

// I see the writer of this theory got a George Orwell Award in 2004. Remind me what genre of literature did George Orwell write. Fiction mostly. //

The George Orwell Award is not for fiction. If you cannot be bothered to google what the award is for, probably best not to make a comment.

[retrocop]

JTH
The U.S. had great interest in what was going on in Afghanistan and the terrorism there prior to 9/11. At one stage they supplied the mujahadeen with stinger missiles to shoot down Russian Gunships.
Today's Freedom fighter is tomorrow's terrorist. They knew exactly who they were dealing with as freedom fighters and subsequently terrorists before 2002.
They probably knew Shaker and had him in their sights back then.




https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet%E2%80%93Afghan_War


//But Shaker Aamer was there in 2002 when the world was a different place. Yes, it was post 9/11, but the War on Terror hadn't cranked itself into the fully-fledged Military machine it subsequently became. //

[retrocop]

Gromit
I am aware that the award is about honesty in journalistic political reporting.
Does'nt mean to say that either followed those rules does it?
I can be just as sceptical about the type of people who I read about and what they have to fantasise on.

[Gromit]

retrocop

Before 9/11, Dubya Bush had invited the Taliban to Texas (he was Governor) to talk oil.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/west_asia/37021.stm

[jackthehat]

Aamer wasn't in Afghanistan during that particular conflict.

///They probably knew Shaker and had him in their sights back then. ///

There is nothing upon which to base that and he was 'given up' by an informer rather than via any intelligence gathered by any particular agencies.

[retrocop]

Gromit

//Before 9/11, Dubya Bush had invited the Taliban to Texas (he was Governor) to talk oil.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/west_asia/37021.stm//

That just reinforces what I posted earlier.The U.S. knew who they were dealing with back then and the names of every foot soldier they supplied with arms and kit against the Russians.

[redvanman]

The old saying no smoke without fire send him strait back to Saudi

[andy-hughes]

divebuddy - //It must be nice to have such a child like view of things. We are the guys in the white hats and they are the guys in the black ones. Right. //

Beats being a paranoid vigilante, looking over my shoulder for the bogie men, any day!