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Is This Cartoon Racist?
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Tom Jones wants to get his DNA tested, just to be 100-percent certain that he doesn’t have any black in him.
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Tom Jones wants to get his DNA tested, just to be 100-percent certain that he doesn’t have any black in him.
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This, from 2009. Even his mother's line traces back across the border.
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Whilst this...
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...insists that even the surname Jones is medieval Norman/English in origin.
Whereas the part of the wikipedia entry I can see in my search engine results insists it is of Welsh origin. Presumably there has been an endless edit war over that page and the website I cite, above, will have been deemed "an unreliable source", or "original research" (ie not encyclopaedic).
Taking excessive pride over what may have been the medieval equivalent of having the slave-master's surname imposed on you is... very odd.
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...insists that even the surname Jones is medieval Norman/English in origin.
Whereas the part of the wikipedia entry I can see in my search engine results insists it is of Welsh origin. Presumably there has been an endless edit war over that page and the website I cite, above, will have been deemed "an unreliable source", or "original research" (ie not encyclopaedic).
Taking excessive pride over what may have been the medieval equivalent of having the slave-master's surname imposed on you is... very odd.
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sp1814
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Can you please expand on which races are superior to others, and what ways?
Simple, sp
Take the Epsom Derby for instance ...
Nijinsky, Mill Reef, The Minstral, Golden Fleece etc, etc they just keep rolling off the tongue.
Now try and name any of the winners of the 3:30 during the Sunday Hop meeting held at Beverly racecourse?
AOG
Can you please expand on which races are superior to others, and what ways?
Simple, sp
Take the Epsom Derby for instance ...
Nijinsky, Mill Reef, The Minstral, Golden Fleece etc, etc they just keep rolling off the tongue.
Now try and name any of the winners of the 3:30 during the Sunday Hop meeting held at Beverly racecourse?
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Only just popped into the end of this thread to see how it was developing....and it looks like weird claims have been made for 'racial superiority'. Like the Loch Ness Monster and the Miracle at Fatima, racial superiority is a myth. It was adhered to out of a mixture of colonialism, naivety and supreme self-confidence before 1945. Since then the only people who drag it out and parade it to support hypotheses are charlatans, very bad and wicked sorts like the KKK, or the spectacularly ill-informed.
There is no empirical evidence to support notions of racial superiority. Anthropologists hesitate to apply 'race' as anything other than a very broad series of evolutionary responses such as skin colour and eye colour.
Bazwillrun has confused the complex interplay of geography, climate and resources with innate human superiority. I recommend any of Professor Jared Diamond's works Baz, a good read and very well researched eg 'Guns, Germs and Steel'.
There is no empirical evidence to support notions of racial superiority. Anthropologists hesitate to apply 'race' as anything other than a very broad series of evolutionary responses such as skin colour and eye colour.
Bazwillrun has confused the complex interplay of geography, climate and resources with innate human superiority. I recommend any of Professor Jared Diamond's works Baz, a good read and very well researched eg 'Guns, Germs and Steel'.
That should read "Anthropologists hesitate to apply 'race' as anything other than a very broad series of evolutionary responses such as skin colour and eye colour, in case they are classed as racist.
That word now seems strange when some would argue that races just don't exist.
It is also strange that forensics can identify the race of a skeleton, just by the skull.
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That word now seems strange when some would argue that races just don't exist.
It is also strange that forensics can identify the race of a skeleton, just by the skull.
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AOG; I don't think you should take too seriously the views of a crime fiction writer. All she is pointing out and mistakenly claiming them to be racial characteristics are no more than 'family' similarities, in that communities that live together will inevitably gather certain physical likenesses. Just as your skull shape will resemble that of your father, mother or grandparents.
It is not possible to tell if a human skull belonged to a person with black or white skin colouring (I have studied anatomy, by the way). It is only, but not quite with certainty, just possible to tell if a skull is male or female.
It is not possible to tell if a human skull belonged to a person with black or white skin colouring (I have studied anatomy, by the way). It is only, but not quite with certainty, just possible to tell if a skull is male or female.
Khandro some people would disagree with you that you can't differentiate Race by the skull or skeleton. It is difficult to ascertain race from single bones in the skull but a complete skull will differ (especially in the jaw and nose area) in both shape and measurements. The forensic anthropologists can differentiate between n.e.g.r.o.i.d, Caucasian, Asian and Australiod ,Mongolloid etc. origins
Retro; // some people would disagree with you that you can't differentiate Race by the skull or skeleton.//
I didn't mention a skeleton, with a full skeleton it is easier to tell by the wide pelvis and narrower shoulder configuration. With a skull it isn't always easy, generally you are right in that in the jaw the mandible is larger and the angle is more open. The most likely feature by which to differentiate is what is called the Supra-nasal prominence which is the ridge between the eyebrows which usually hardly exists on a female. But you only have to look around you to see there are females with quite masculine features and vice-versa.
You might be able to make a guess, but there is no way of telling the colour of a person's skin from their bones.
I didn't mention a skeleton, with a full skeleton it is easier to tell by the wide pelvis and narrower shoulder configuration. With a skull it isn't always easy, generally you are right in that in the jaw the mandible is larger and the angle is more open. The most likely feature by which to differentiate is what is called the Supra-nasal prominence which is the ridge between the eyebrows which usually hardly exists on a female. But you only have to look around you to see there are females with quite masculine features and vice-versa.
You might be able to make a guess, but there is no way of telling the colour of a person's skin from their bones.
