First Syrians Have Arrived, What Now?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3322197/First-Syrian-refugees-flying-Britain-Tory-MPs-urge-ministers-make-sure-genuine-asylum-seekers-not-terrorists.html

/// They will be given housing, legal protection, access to employment, education and expert medical care as part of the vulnerable persons resettlement scheme (VPR). After five years they can apply to remain in the UK. ///

They should be so lucky, some of our own sleep on the streets, no automatic legal protection for us, lack of jobs, already crowded schools, and an overstretched NHS. As well as an increase in the threat of terrorism

But never mind all that, at least some will still say "doesn't it make one feel proud"?

[bazwillrun]

I wonder if they were asked where theyd "like" to go if any of them would ask to be taken to a muslim country...

[-Talbot-]

chkeria
"Now please explain to me ichkeria how saying they were French or Belgian is somehow better than if they were say a recent Syrian immigrant? "

Well, pretty obviously because they are not recent Syrian immigrants!
And that is what AOG's question was about.


That is not an answer to my question.
Yourself, Gromit and Corbyloon have all said 'Hey but these were not the refugees/immigrants that made there way across Europe recently, these people were born in France/Belgium'

I will ask again why are you making this point?

[RandyMarsh]

Have you misread it AOG?, that is where it alleges it was RUAF?

It reads "opposition members claim the attack was conducted by a Russian RUAF plane"

[vetuste_ennemi]

"The point has been made before, but the Paris attackers, for example, were all French or Belgian.".
What point is being made here?

[vetuste_ennemi]

Oh, I get it now: these French and Belgian men WEREN'T Muslim. That's the point, right? What were they, Mormons?

[naomi24]

//they are not recent Syrian immigrants! //

Apparently one, possibly two, were - but I'd like to know what point is being made here too.

[Mosaic]

The xenophobes on this thread are a gift to the ruling elite.
While your busy going beserk over pennies, they bail each other out continuously to the tune of billions.
While your eyes are on a few homeless people being given refuge, they're making a deal with the US to sell your health and welfare system downriver.
We are such a rich society, and yet we're closing our eyes to reality and letting the real exploitation go on under our noses.

[ichkeria]

"That is not an answer to my question.
Yourself, Gromit and Corbyloon have all said 'Hey but these were not the refugees/immigrants that made there way across Europe recently, these people were born in France/Belgium'

I will ask again why are you making this point? "

Because "Tory MPs urge ministers to make sure they are 'genuine asylum seekers, not terrorists' as it says at the link. And it's a very fair point of course. However, to counterbalance that fear (rather than pooh pooh it) it is worth pointing out that the problems we have faced to date seem to come from people returning home, rather than new arrivals.
So, that is why.

[naomi24]

ichkeria, //the problems we have faced to date seem to come from people returning home, rather than new arrivals. //

You seem to be implying that we have nothing to fear from new arrivals but I don't understand why. A terrorist is a terrorist, and at least one of those responsible for the Paris atrocities arrived in October from Syria.

[Khandro]

Re-post;
I haven't seen it reported in the British press, but it's reported in the German, that the Polish President has said an emphatic 'no' (nie, I think that is) to involvement, he says; "No Polish men are going to die fighting in Syria, while Syrian men sit drinking coffee in Berlin cafes" !!

[joeluke]

'First Syrians Have Arrived, What Now?'

Pull up the drawbridge?

[ichkeria]

I'm not implying anything of the sort.
And I happened to mention the one who travelled through Europe in my original post, pointing out that he wasn't a refugee either, but a known activist.
So all the more reason to make sure our intelligence services talk to each other

[ichkeria]

""No Polish men are going to die fighting in Syria, while Syrian men sit drinking coffee in Berlin cafes" !! "

Was he asked to provide Polish ground troops to Syria then? That WOULD be big news :-)

[naomi24]

ichkeria, so what are you saying?

[anotheoldgit]

RandyMarsh

/// Have you misread it AOG?, that is where it alleges it was RUAF? ///

/// It reads "opposition members claim the attack was conducted by a Russian RUAF plane" ///

I must apologise Randy, you are perfectly correct.

But what I can't understand is the fact that yesterday I checked it over and over again, and the words that I put were certainly there, but I checked it this morning and they are completely different words.

Very strange, very strange indeed.