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War In Syria
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Charles has spoken. the war is definitely caused by humanity's inability to get to grips with climate change.
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does he have a valid point?
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does he have a valid point?
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We have discussed the drought theory before, and it appears to be baseless.
Syria was on the very edge of the area surveyed by researchers and readings were supplied by just one weather station in Syria. The readings from that station were not significantly different from the previous decade. Certainly not the cause of a people migration.
Syria was on the very edge of the area surveyed by researchers and readings were supplied by just one weather station in Syria. The readings from that station were not significantly different from the previous decade. Certainly not the cause of a people migration.
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It is not until you dig pretty deep into the technical scientific literature, that you find out that the anthropogenic climate change impact on drought conditions in the Fertile Crescent is extremely minimal and tenuous—so much so that it is debatable as to whether it is detectable at all.
This is not to say that a strong and prolonged drought didn’t play some role in the Syria’s pre-war unrest—perhaps it did, perhaps it didn’t (a debate we leave up to folks much more qualified than we are on the topic)—but that the human-influenced climate change impact on the drought conditions was almost certainly too small to have mattered.
In other words, the violence would almost certainly have occurred anyway. //
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It is not until you dig pretty deep into the technical scientific literature, that you find out that the anthropogenic climate change impact on drought conditions in the Fertile Crescent is extremely minimal and tenuous—so much so that it is debatable as to whether it is detectable at all.
This is not to say that a strong and prolonged drought didn’t play some role in the Syria’s pre-war unrest—perhaps it did, perhaps it didn’t (a debate we leave up to folks much more qualified than we are on the topic)—but that the human-influenced climate change impact on the drought conditions was almost certainly too small to have mattered.
In other words, the violence would almost certainly have occurred anyway. //
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Don’t start using rhyming slang in serious debates, baz. Tora x3 is always getting told off for it. Nobody knows that “giraffe” rhymes with “chuckle”.
The article says “The logic, briefly, is this. A lack of zinc makes men irritable and belligerent. “
I eat Marmite virtually every day - oodles of it. I get irritable and belligerent if I stay somewhere where they haven’t got any (I've actually taken to keeping a small jar in the car for just such emergencies). But I also get belligerent and irritable when I’ve had my daily dose. Usually when I see claptrap such as HRH (aka “The Man Who Would Be King”) sometimes comes out with.
The article says “The logic, briefly, is this. A lack of zinc makes men irritable and belligerent. “
I eat Marmite virtually every day - oodles of it. I get irritable and belligerent if I stay somewhere where they haven’t got any (I've actually taken to keeping a small jar in the car for just such emergencies). But I also get belligerent and irritable when I’ve had my daily dose. Usually when I see claptrap such as HRH (aka “The Man Who Would Be King”) sometimes comes out with.
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perhaps thats why this lot are getting belligerent and slapping down demands about where they want to go...Western Europe...give em all a jar of marmite and send them back home to sort their country out...
perhaps thats why this lot are getting belligerent and slapping down demands about where they want to go...Western Europe...give em all a jar of marmite and send them back home to sort their country out...
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and I recall other times hes made his views known prior to this, probably still kicking around somewhere on the internet....
and I recall other times hes made his views known prior to this, probably still kicking around somewhere on the internet....
In a round about way, Chaz is right, but only insofar as all cultures depend on climate. The 'Fertile Crescent' has experienced increased aridity in its southern borders since about 12,000 BCE and gradually forest cover that was once more extensive has been unable to regenerate, while human activity has increasingly removed what's there. That's why yer cedars of Lebanon are now rare whereas back 4000 years ago they were numerous.Countering any water shortages are the huge dam schemes, largely funded by the old USSR, on the upper reaches of the Euphrates. These and boreholes complement the chain of oases liking northern Iraq and eastern Lebanon and if it weren't for conflict the area would be very profitable in grape, olive, citrus and grain.
In southern Lebanon and Israel / Palestine, real conflict is underway based around ownership of water rights and irrigated land. The Palestinians and Lebanese keep losing. No change there then.
In southern Lebanon and Israel / Palestine, real conflict is underway based around ownership of water rights and irrigated land. The Palestinians and Lebanese keep losing. No change there then.
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