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Escapes A Driving Ban Because He Didn't Understand His Speedometer, What's That All About?
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Maybe next time his excuse could be, "I was driving on the wrong side of the road because I forgot we drive on the left in England"?
Maybe next time his excuse could be, "I was driving on the wrong side of the road because I forgot we drive on the left in England"?
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Mr.J2 was driving us in Caen a couple of years ago. It was a quiet Sunday morning with just the odd car around. He sped up a bit to catch a green traffic light - and received a notice about a week later! His speedometer was UK and he had, momentarily, forgotten to watch the less obvious Km per hour dial. Fair enough, we paid up. It isn't an excuse to be driving a foreign car in other words.
jomifl
Errr...you need to look up the word 'pejorative', because nothing in what I wrote was pejorative.
You've completely misused the word.
What I've stated is factual. Yaya misread his speedo, and some old people drive the wrong way up motorways, as proven by the links I provided. This does not suggest I am contemptuous of old people - in the same way that AOG is not contemptuous of black people by constantly posting threads where he has the opportunity to attack us.
It's just coincidental..
I'm sure AOG will back me up on this. I'm as ageist as he is racist...which is 'not at all'.
Errr...you need to look up the word 'pejorative', because nothing in what I wrote was pejorative.
You've completely misused the word.
What I've stated is factual. Yaya misread his speedo, and some old people drive the wrong way up motorways, as proven by the links I provided. This does not suggest I am contemptuous of old people - in the same way that AOG is not contemptuous of black people by constantly posting threads where he has the opportunity to attack us.
It's just coincidental..
I'm sure AOG will back me up on this. I'm as ageist as he is racist...which is 'not at all'.
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But he doesn't need to, Sandy, as I have explained.
"The rich can afford clever solicitors who can think of clever excuses which judges believe "
I think I explained, joeluke, that no solicitor, clever or otherwise, was necessary. Nor was the "clever" (or rather pathetic) excuse. The outcome would almost certainly have been the same for anybody else or indeed for him had he simply represented himself.
There seems to be a widespread misapprehension that all footballers/pop stars/actors/businessmen (or anybody with a few bob) is automatically treated leniently when they face driving offences. This is usually on the basis that they have hired an expensive lawyer. Lawyers (whether expensive or those working on Legal Aid) can be persuasive - that's what they do. But the sentencing guidelines need to be examined before it is automatically assumed that they have received special treatment.
"The rich can afford clever solicitors who can think of clever excuses which judges believe "
I think I explained, joeluke, that no solicitor, clever or otherwise, was necessary. Nor was the "clever" (or rather pathetic) excuse. The outcome would almost certainly have been the same for anybody else or indeed for him had he simply represented himself.
There seems to be a widespread misapprehension that all footballers/pop stars/actors/businessmen (or anybody with a few bob) is automatically treated leniently when they face driving offences. This is usually on the basis that they have hired an expensive lawyer. Lawyers (whether expensive or those working on Legal Aid) can be persuasive - that's what they do. But the sentencing guidelines need to be examined before it is automatically assumed that they have received special treatment.
SP, I do not need look up the meaning of the word 'pejorative' as I know what it means and meant what I wrote.
Your reference to old people was snide and unnecessary. As you well know it is not what you think you said that is important but how it is perceived by others. If you don't understand me try explaining why you used the word 'old'. I can't think why you brought AOG and racism into your argument it won't work as a crutch here.
Your reference to old people was snide and unnecessary. As you well know it is not what you think you said that is important but how it is perceived by others. If you don't understand me try explaining why you used the word 'old'. I can't think why you brought AOG and racism into your argument it won't work as a crutch here.
I'm sure I've read in the past about lawyers saying that their client needs to drive long distances because of their work and offering that as a reason why a ban shouldn't be impose.
Surely that means a ban was an option?
And then you read further and see one wasn't imposed. Has this generation of magistrates gone soft?
Surely that means a ban was an option?
And then you read further and see one wasn't imposed. Has this generation of magistrates gone soft?
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Speeding offences are normally considered if they are 10% over the limit plus 2mph so that would be 79mph on a motorway. If he had little traffic to compare his speed to, he may have thought he was doing closer to eighty instead of a hundred, I have no idea. I agree he was speeding either way but the law recognises the difference in magnitude when considering the penalties.
jomifl
You do need to look the word up, because you aren't making sense.
The words 'old' and 'pensioner' are not pejorative.
It's simply stating facts that there have been a number of cases recently where elderly people have put others in extreme danger, by driving the wrong way up a dual carriageway, or indeed, mistaking the accelerator for the brake pedal:
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These cases all involve older people. We should not avoid discussing this, in the same way that AOG should not be castigated for continually posting critical threads about black people, Asians, gay people etc etc.
You do need to look the word up, because you aren't making sense.
The words 'old' and 'pensioner' are not pejorative.
It's simply stating facts that there have been a number of cases recently where elderly people have put others in extreme danger, by driving the wrong way up a dual carriageway, or indeed, mistaking the accelerator for the brake pedal:
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These cases all involve older people. We should not avoid discussing this, in the same way that AOG should not be castigated for continually posting critical threads about black people, Asians, gay people etc etc.
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divebuddy
I clearly stated that AOG didn't post this thread because he's black.
Indeed, the first mention of race was made by AOG at 13:01, when Islay pointed out the trend in AOG's posts.
AOG regularly posts threads in order to criticise minorities - I'm saying that he shouldn't necessarily be demonised as a bigot because of this.
I was defending this thread.
You need to read things a little more clearly.
I clearly stated that AOG didn't post this thread because he's black.
Indeed, the first mention of race was made by AOG at 13:01, when Islay pointed out the trend in AOG's posts.
AOG regularly posts threads in order to criticise minorities - I'm saying that he shouldn't necessarily be demonised as a bigot because of this.
I was defending this thread.
You need to read things a little more clearly.
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