Petition Calling For Sharia Reform Delivered To No 10

[naomi24]

In Sharia courts women are seen as having half the worth of men and are trapped in ‘marital captivity’.

Can the government wield any influence, and if so, how?

http://www.standard.co.uk/lifestyle/london-life/in-sharia-court-women-are-seen-as-having-half-the-worth-of-men-a3135346.html

[sandyRoe]

Don't people subject themselves to Sharia law? It has no legal weight but pressures from the community help reinforce it.
I can't see how that could be easily changed.

[EDDIE51]

I agree it is wrong but I can't see them taking any notice of anything the government could say or do. Sharia courts are not officially recognised anyway.

[mikey4444]

I am with sandy here. Sharia Law only exists because people submit themselves to it.

What happened to the Aisha was not on but perhaps she should have gone to the Police instead ?

[THECORBYLOON]

EDDIE, Sharia"courts" are tribunals under the Arbitration Act 1996 and the Arbitration (Scotland) Act 2010. Their decisions are binding unless contradictory to Scots, Ulster or English law.

[dieseldick]

live in britain, live under british law, abide by british law. no iffs or buts.

blood boiling.

[Old_Geezer]

Arbitration is legal under British law.

Governments could make religion based arbitration (need to discuss definitions carefully) illegal, arbitration boards need licensing and stuff like that; but I'm unsure there is political will. The State can not afford to be seen discriminating against a religious group (giving them privileged exceptions is ok though).

[EDDIE51]

Corby, Ok but surely to give a woman half the worth (value) of a man is contrary to UK law? That would immediately invalidate any Sharia court ruling on divorce and many other matters.

[jno]

Jews have had Beth Din courts for years without concerning anyone else.

[THECORBYLOON]

DIESELDICK, aside from the fact there is no such thing as British law, the Sharia "courts" are acting under the legislation I quoted and they are legal.

[Khandro]

mikey; //Sharia Law only exists because people submit themselves to it.//

How little you know! There are 'Sharia police' in Saudi Arabia patrolling the streets and will whip women whose covering they feel insufficient, and from any man not in a mosque at Friday prayer time, has to give a good reason why.

[Old_Geezer]

UK law is not going to affect Saudi Arabia.

Anyway it is totally wrong that a woman is worth only 50% of a man. They are at least 80%.

Without barring these arbitration courts altogether it is going to be a long long long time before some adopt the UK culture sufficiently to drop this sort of thing. Probably take generations if even then.

[mikey4444]

Khandro.....I think I can speak for sandy here, as well as myself...we were referring to Britain, not Saudi Arabia.

In the link above, Aisha would appear to have good case for going to the Police, not a law court.

[dieseldick]

corbyloony they should not be existing here at all. its britain. if they refuse to live under uk law then they can get back to their own countries.

end of , why do idiots, clowns and liberalists goons even ty to justify them here ?

[naomi24]

//perhaps she should have gone to the Police instead ?//

Many of these ladies wouldn’t consider going to the police – in fact I’d hazard a guess that they are unaware of that option. Within Islam it is permissible for a man to hit his disobedient wife – in fact it’s openly recommended - and since women are raised from birth to depend upon the dubious wisdom of the men surrounding them it wouldn’t occur to them to do otherwise. I recall reading on an ‘Ask the Imam’ website a post from a very concerned pregnant lady who asked whether or not she should follow the advice of her midwife – advice which she thought might be ’un-Islamic’. Fortunately, after bleating on about Allah, Mohammed, etc., for a while, the Imam advised her, in that instance, to do as her midwife recommended. There are many cases of men preventing women from receiving medical and dental treatment simply because the doctor happens to be male, so this perception and acceptance by both men and women that females are lesser mortals incapable of making their own decisions is really incredibly dangerous to them. A whole change of culture is required here – but since this abuse emanates directly from highly respected Islamic literature that is deemed beyond criticism, I can’t see it happening, so I’m at a loss to know what the government can do about it.

[mushroom25]

naomi, didn't you say earlier this week that the real issue with this was that the women involved are usually not legally married?

[naomi24]

mushroom25, I did, and that is mentioned in the link I posted.

[woofgang]

I think until women choose not to be bound by sharia law, there isn’t much that can be done apart from continual education on the alternatives.
Doesn’t dieseldick’s bood boil easily? Must be the sunbeds.

[Khandro]

mikey; Is Sheffield close enough? I'm getting sent one of these every day during the current campaign;
http://us7.campaign-archive2.com/?u=14513de99dac8d5f78b2163ec&id=f87f34c667&e=f89c574e47

[THECORBYLOON]

DIESELDICK how are they refusing to live under our laws? There are various means to go through arbitration rather than use the courts and the Sharia "court" has no more standing than a tribunal.

If you think adding a 'y' to my name is amusing, should I add 'head' to yours?

[Baldric]

///In 2011, Britain's Muslims began demanding that Sharia replace British common law and become the only law in towns with large Muslim populations, including Birmingham, Bradford, Derby, Dewsbury, Leeds, Leicester, Liverpool, Luton, Manchester, Sheffield, Waltham Forest and Tower Hamlets,///
FROM
http://www.billionbibles.org/sharia/uk-sharia-law.html